SLUTTY, BITCHY, CRAZY, HOT women are to men what….

Hot, trendy, crazy-sexy high heels are to women.

Ladies imagine – or rather relive what you just did this weekend. You’re walking throughout the mall, down the street where there are a line of stores. In the window you see an incredible pair of shoes. They are HOT! You cannot take your eyes off of them. They stop you in your tracks. You keep looking until you finally convince yourself to go into that store and take a closer look.  They are some crazy shade of red,  4-5”  heel,  have an incredible shape/style to them and you know if you wear those bad boys everyone is going to be looking at you in utter AWE, HATE, DISBELIEF, JEALOUSY, ENVY, LUST, CONFUSION when you  strut through, down, across, over, ON TOP OF  (hey where you go  or who you do  in your hot high heels is none of my bidness) where you are going.  You may even get the gonads to get your Marilyn Monroe on and stand over a blowing air vent in the  middle of the street just so people can take a photo – that’s how damn hot these shoes are.

You’re in the store holding the shoe mumbling the lyrics “me so horny, me love you long time” while a complete different song is playing throughout the store. You  start feeling up the shoe, rubbing on it, you even get the urge to lick them but don’t out of fear of being arrested and escorted out by mall security and forever placed on the shoe sex offender list.  At the height of your “me love you long time” excitement in seeing, feeling  & dying to lick the shoe, those damn spidey senses start kicking in:

SPIDEY SENSES: * don’t do it NEECY, LIZA, they aren’t worth the pain your feet will feel when you wear them out. Plus you can’t really afford them right now. And what the hell are you going to wear with them!? And last but not least, can you wear them around mommy without her clutching her pearls and daddy without him giving you the side eye*  

So as you walk out the store regret -tingly looking back at those hot shoes, the store sales rep (aka the devil) tells you they are on sale for a vewwy vewwy good price (she forgot to put the sign up – yeah ok).  That’s all you needed to hear! HOT, SEXY annnnnnd CHEAP  competivley priced?! Pssh. You whip out the credit card and next thing you know you are going home with a hot pair of shoes. If you’re really a shoe pimp, you’ll be taking home at least, at MINIMUM another  hot, sexy, annnnnd CHEAP Competivley priced pair from a different store.  You get home. Frantically and passionately start throwing shoe paper everywhere ripping open the box to grab ahold of your hot sexy crazy shade of red high heeled shoes. Breathing heavily from all the excitement you finally put them on your feet and start walking in  them around the house. RUT ROH! Hot shoes not feeling so nice on the footsies! Then you limp to the closet. RUT ROH! There is nothing in the closet that you can wear with them (except what’s in your lingerie drawer).  You scoffingly look down at those attractive boring  realistically wearable shoes you have stashed in the back of the closet behind all the “WHOA” shoes. damn they look so good!  Your  common sense & desire start having a tug of war in the middle of your closet over the shoes. Common sense says take them back they are a waste of your money & time. Desire says keep them b/c they look so damn good.  God finally speaks and warns you that these shoes are trendy and will probably not be the best for you to wear around all the time, but maybe for special occasions like: a trip to the club, local bar, night out on the town in Vegas, strip club.

IOW’s they are not for daily or long term use. You know on the average day, you should be wearing nice attractive shoes that while may not cause people to stop in their tracks and say “WHOA” you know those shoes you can count on to be comfy, allow for long-term use/wear, will never go out of style and the color & style  is “closet friendly” in that you can always depend on them for most any outfit you wear.  And most of all you can wear them around mommy and daddy and not get the clutching of pearls and the side eye.

*SIGH*

Now we know what men go through when they get caught up with slutty, crazy, bitchy women – who look good! Common sense tells them “don’t do it,  bitch is looney”, but desire tells them “but dayum she looks good!”. In the end the wiener wins (hey that’s a nice catchy phrase! *in the end, the wiener wins*. Ok back on topic.

If you read the PUA Blogs long enough, you will start realizing there is a common theme amongst the men there. That all the women they have dealt with have been either: (a) crazy (b) bitchy (c) slutty (d) all of the above. BUT the one redeeming factor they give themselves for dealing with such women isss *drum roll* SHE WAS A HOTTIE!  So in essence these men are giving themselves excuses to deal with such women simply b/c of their “hotness”. The same reasoning women give for wearing really hot shoes that hurt like hayell or really tight uncomfortable clothes that give you yeast infections (b/c they look good).

Look I have no issues with admitting and acknowledging that men are visual creatures. Just like I have no issues with admitting that women love a bad ass pair of shoes regardless of how they hurt.  Men  are *PRIMARILY* (key word Primary meaning first and foremost) driven by a woman’s looks. However,  that is why God gave us a secondary!  so that when the primary looks to good to be true, you can use secondary choices to determine whether or not its worth pursuing. There comes a hefty price tag in the long run when one chooses something solely for looks. Those red hot high heeled shoes we women love to wear will eventually damage our feet if we continue wearing shoes like that over long periods of time and often. Just like getting caught up with a slutty, crazy, bitchy woman WHO LOOKS AMAZING will cost you down the road.  Ok I get it! Men like Hotties and women like men who are stallions in the sack. But then common sense and those secondary choices come in that tells us that sometimes the hottest or best in bed is not always the ones we should be looking to as  long term mates. Men like to use their biological desires of wanting good looking women as excuses for choosing bad women. UH UH Fellas! Not an excuse. Just like I will not let us ladies off the hook for having a biological desire to be with a man who is a stallion in the bed but we know he’s no good in other areas. There is free will and choices, and there is also consequences for bad choices.

What bugs me about the hypocrisy of men (more so the good guys who keep getting burned) is that suddenly all women are sketchy characters  & messy – to not be trusted or believed.  They *SAY* they want beautiful respectable women, but their feet say otherwise. Suddenly after dealing with these looney BUT HOT women , they surmise that all women want to be treated like wet food stamps. Well yeah if you are only dealing with crazies, slutties, or bitches then what else do you know?! Why can’t men just admit that these women are ideal to them for a number of reasons – one being they look good, but also b/c these women are easily manipulated, easy to bed, easy to be aloof to, easy to not have to commit to or work for, easy to play on their already low self-esteem and get what you want. But when these women  retaliate by being their true to form selves – sluts, bitches,  etc.,, then all women are the problem? How can you take a segment of a population (a very bad example of that population at that) and apply it across the board to fit all of that population?

I don’t really care to focus on the bad boys in this topic b/c a bad boy is what a bad boy does. I want to focus on the Good guys. The guys I LIKE. A good guy IMO is a guy who is intelligent. One who has elevated morals and values and COMMON SENSE. Typically comes from a solid foundation and has seen good women as great examples of womanhood in his immediate family to draw upon.  But he’s a guy with a penis and also wants to get laid by the Hotties. No problem. That is, if he sees it for what it is – SEX with a nutcase or emotionally unavailable woman who will be sleeping with another dude possibly an hour after wiping your protein shake  from her nether regions. The problem comes when he starts seeking out these women thinking they will not only be super hot, but will also be the perfect g/f or wife. So he gets caught up in wanting to be the man with the hottest girl and starts overlooking some of the OBVIOUS signs that she is a maniac who should be avoided. When he gets burned by these women, he starts becoming bitter and angry at all women. He overlooks the women who are attractive but not edgy or slutty enough and who would better compliment his life. These good decent attractive women are ignored, while the slutty woman is elevated.

So, my thought is this: Women today who  are attractive but not in a slutty edgy kind of way are being left out in the cold. Its either if you can’t beat em join em, or simply rely on the reality that 9 times out of 10 you will play second fiddle to a more slutty, bitchy, crazy or all of the above woman. But you will also be lumped in with said women and made out to be a “typical woman” who doesn’t know what she wants, likes to screw men over, and play games.

If you are finding yourself lingering around the mid 30’s mark, you better have a plan B in action that doesn’t include a man. b/C in my experience, if you are not offering your ass up as a buffet within the first 30 minutes of a date, you’re screwed. And I don’t mean that literally. *Pouring liquor on the ground for the good girls* R.I.P.

Discuss…….

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  1. Neil Hansen
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 07:32:19

    The aggressiveness of female sexuality is a recent phenomenon. Not long ago women had a code wherein they never revealed too much skin or boobage. It isn’t men who are forcing women to reveal so much; it is entirely female driven. I do sympathize with you, but I wanted to add my 2 cents. Female sexuality is irrational in a way that men’s aren’t. Men’s sexuality is not complex, and is easy to control. Take the double standard, for example. Nobody has been able to solve it. Men who play around and score will always be respected by other men, because getting female attention requires skill. A woman who plays around and scores faces an entirely different set of circumstances. Number one: it doesn’t take skill for a woman to get laid. She merely needs to choose basically anyone. Therefore a woman won’t get respect for that, because it is seen as giving away a resource. Additionally, when sex is being negotiated, it is always the man who is invited to ‘enter’ a woman. Therefore the burden will always be upon women to be ‘clean’. (of course men must be clean, too, but since women are the hosts and men are the guests, higher expectations are placed upon the hosts).

    This may sound like nonsense, but its my thoughts. I don’t know where women are supposed to draw the line between slut/lady. You may as well go with the flow and slut it up, every woman is. However, it is a little sad that this current culture doesn’t support gentlemanly or ladylike behavior. The highest rewards belong to sluts and PUA’s.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:31:37

      Neil,

      ITA. Women are the ones who control sex while men are the ones who control the relationships. Its like a see saw. Women in the past understood that sex for men is not as easily attainable as it is for women (unless he pays for prostitutes) & the *main reason* males were/are willing to commmit and marry was b/c of their desire to have consistent sex from a woman without having to go out and hunt for it. I really believe this is the *primary* reason most men are willing to enter into LTR’s and marriage. B/C the idea is they don’t have to go out hunting for regular sex.

      On the flip side Men also understand/understood that women are driven by the need to have emotional connections and commitment to a man she loves, and thus knew that she would hold onto to her sexuality for the right male who was willing to committ.

      I believe its pure biological. There is a reason men are driven by sex and women driven by emotional attachment /committment. When women give up the one thing that easily gets a man “sex” then men no longer have to enter into committed relationships to get the release they often need. And that is why the society is the way it is. men do not have to committ to women anymore if they want to get laid regularly. Yet women want to have the right to sleep around, yet still want committment from men. Its not going to work both ways. Women don’t realize this.

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  2. Liza207
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 15:29:39

    Neil, I agree with most of what you said in your post. But studies have shown that women are more selective about their sexual partners than man are. You’re right the aggressiveness of female sexuality is a recent phenomenon it is because before feminism men controlled female sexuality. Now, we’re finally in control and have become out of control as well.

    I have thought about going with the “flow” but I have too much respect for myself and my body to go slutting it up. I know that I would have more male companions, as a result, but the cost for me would be much too high to pay.

    Neil, I really like your perspective on women and I find it very refreshing, too.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:38:10

      Liza,

      I am not planning on “slutting it up” but smart women not in LTR’s or mariages will do what they need to do to get what they need. I cannot tell you how many of my married female relatives and friends are so envious of me b/c I am not tied down – yet I envy them b/c they are in marriages. LOL. My aunt who is 39 told me i have it made. And that if she were me or could do it all over again, she would just get a man every now and then to have sex with and live her li9fe without all the stress and drama of marriage.

      i have decided that I will find a partner that i can trust and have sex with whenever I need it. I can handle and enjoy and fulfill my life in so many others ways to replace a LTR or marriage or not having kids. But dammit I am finding my libido increases each year! Its crazy, i wasnt like this in my 20’s or even early 30’s at all. I’m noticing a high increase in sexual desire. But i just cannot bring myself to do it with a man who i know is simply out to sleep with me. I’m stubborn and have too much pride. I want to make that call. I don’t want to feel pressured. i just want it to happen naturally without all the hemming and hawing – you know?

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      • Liza207
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:55:39

        Neecy, I struggle with this as well. And yes, my hormones are RAGING, too. And younger men have never been more enticing to me. They are all I see. I would love to have a little “boy toy” you know a friend with benefits that I can get together with now and then. But none of the trolling the bar scene looking for Mr. Goodbar nonsense I see every Fri and Sat night. Not my scene at all.

        Do really believe married women who say that they wish that they were single, too? I think they just say this so that you will remain single and unmarried.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 02:30:53

        Liza,

        The beauty about younger guys is they are not pre occupied with a woman’s age whether she be older than them or younger. They are more forgiving with a woman’s age if she looks good to him. Young guys typically (b/c they are still young) simply base their willingness to have sex with women on whether she meets his attractiveness level. IOW’s if she looks good to him he’ll have sex with her. LOL Plus I find younger guys want to “prove” themselves in the sack with women older than they are. I find its the older men who are pre occupied with a woman’s age and obsessed with being with a younger woman.

        Some places I hang out there are many young guys. I find younger guys to be less judgemental towards women in general.

        I do wonder how much of women who tell single women to “stay single” is really b/c they don’t want to see you married. Hmmm… Women can be very catty on the sly. However, in the case of my aunt I think she really wishes she were single and child free. LOL She is always saying it. Who really knows….

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      • Liza207
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 14:00:02

        It’s true younger guys are less judgmental. Let’s also keep in mind that they are more sexually and physically appealing and we are both in our sexual primes (peaking sexually at the same time). Neecy, you that has to be explosive. I have never been interested in older guys and I never will be even when I’m much older. I remember in my teens and twenties being hit on by much older men (30’s – 60’s) and I was so grossed out by them, but I knew girls my age that would go for it. Gross! I’m thiry-six and I could care less about getting any attention from older men–not interested anyway. I get plenty of attention from guys in their teens and twenties , why would I bother going there.

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      • Zorro
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 15:02:39

        When I was 27, I had a relationship with a woman who was 42. It was like LIVING ON SEXUAL FANTASY ISLAND!!! She was Swedish (heritage, not nationality), looked a LOT like Ann-Margret, had an ass like Kim Kardashian and sported a pair of 36 Triple-Ds. Seriously. She was very into her sexuality. Role playing. French maid costumes. Oral. Anal. Swinging from the chandelier. Doing it in the kitchen with the fish burning.

        Mother. Of. God!

        AWESOME!!!!!

        She was also a bit flaky, into witchcraft and astrology and shit, but otherwise a very nice person. I regretted not staying with her longer. I am totally into the whole cougar thing. If you want a younger guy, GO FOR IT! It is the smartest thing you will ever do, just as long as you get one with his head screwed on straight. Me, oddly, I have always liked older women. I don’t think women look good until they’re at least 40 (but Neecy looks good right now). I would love Susan Lucci (60 years old and looking GREAT!), but she likes older guys. Raquel Welch. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Head screwed on straight: a necessity for both men and women.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 15:54:12

        Yes Liza younger guys are definitley the way to go for us gals in our mid to late 30’s and 40’s. I am not so much against dating a guy a few years older than me. But it seems to me they are OBSESSED with young women in thier 20’s. A lot of times older guys talk to me b/c they think I am younger than I really am. i get to see their obsessions with young women and its a turn off. The writing on the wall is becomming clearer and clearer to me. Looking at things now I have decided I am not going to try to find a needle in a haystack man who is a few years older than me who can appreciate a woman’s beauty who is not 20 years old. I find older guys treat wome their age like shit and look down on them. That’s fine b/c there are so many young guys who still will sleep with any attractive woman no matter her age. LOL

        While I still think men in their 30’s, 40’s and 50’s can be attractive, guys in thier mid to late 20’s and early 30’s look best. men hit their peaks later in life (between 25-35). But frankly, guys past the age of 35 are waaay too obsessed with having young women. No prob. But I am not going to deal with that. Not when i can get a young attractive guy who is still a stallion in bed and less judgemental about a woman’s age number. Younger men place value on looks and looks alone which i have no problem with. B/C there are so many women in mid to late 30’s who still look amazing for their age. If a woman takes care of herself, she can still get laid well into her late 40’s.

        What these older guys don’t want to own up to is that the reason younger women are attractive to them is the same reason younger men are attractive to smart women who haven’t drank the kool-aid that we should be with guys older than us. I think i have an idear for my next post!!! 😉

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:03:57

        ZORRO,

        You are definitley an exceptiont to the rule of mature men who still find beauty in women who are over the age of 25. I know a lot of people give the sex n the city ladies some flack, but the reality is when women hit mid 30’s and up, still look good, they are looked down and seen as inferioir by men thier age and older – SIMPLY b/c of the number of their age. i can’t tell you how many times an older guy in conversing with me and trying to get to know me – assuming I am still late 20’s. I never lie about my age b/c I still look amazing for my age. So when I tell them, they become obsessed with my age and not the way I look or anything else. Its like “really OMG i thought you were YOUNGER!! You look so YOUNG compared to your age”. I don’t want to deal with that. if they want a younger woman they should just go get one.

        So what women are realizing is young guys don’t have those hang ups. I have never had a younger guy ask me intially how old I am. NEVER. Its not until we are past the getting to know stages that age comes up. Even when it does they are still like a quick “really?! Damn!” and that’s it. I find they are even more inclined ot want to bed you b/c young guys are always trying to prove themselves in the sack. LOL They just want to sleep with an attractive woman. If you are a woman who still looks quite attractive for her age and doesn’t want to put up with older guys and their superiority complexes about age then young guys are the way to go.

        If I happen to meet an attractive guy older than me by a few years and he seems to have his head straight and is realistic and not obsessed with a woman being too young, its all good. But for the lifestyle I am choosing, I highly doubt I will find one b/c there are waaay too many who do not fit that profile.

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  3. Neil Hansen
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 16:22:46

    The notion that men controlled female sexuality is a myth. Women have never let anything happen to them that they did not co-sign. Women chose modesty of their own free will. When it became time to become more aggressive, they simply became more aggressive. The notion that men once controlled women’s sexuality is used by women to absolve themselves of their own responsibility regarding their own sexuality. It’s a trick. How do I assert my sexuality? Answer: by proclaiming I was once enslaved by the patriarchy. Now I am absolved of all responsibility, because I am a recently freed slave. See how clever that is?

    What I like about Roissy and the manosphere is that these myths are exposed regularly. Before feminism men did not control female sexuality – women did. Women only revolted against other women.

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    • Zorro
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 16:27:40

      Neil is right on the money! Get the book No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover and read chapters 1 and 2.

      Patriarchy, my fat Irish ass! This country has been a full-blown matriarchy since the late 1800s! And feminism is the worst, most parasitic and predatory social cancer of them all!

      Want proof?

      http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp

      The N.O.W. has done more to ruin the present economy than either Bush or Obama!

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      • Liza207
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 18:13:27

        So, this country has been a full-blown matriarchy since the late 1800s, really? So the Women’s Movement was just about a bunch of women making whole a lot of noise about absolutely nothing because we were the ones calling all the shots, right?

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    • Liza207
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 17:35:18

      “The notion that men controlled female sexuality is a myth.”

      No, it’s not and I won’t be convinced that it is, either.

      Its comment like this and others that is the reason why I never engage men that participate on PUA blogs because the arguments often become circular and it’s all about blaming women ONLY (and rewriting history). When we know full well that men and women are both equally responsible for the horrible situation we are currently in.

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    • Zorro
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 18:38:29

      Yes, Liza. Precisely that.

      The Myth of Male Power by Dr. Warren Farrell

      The “Women’s Movement” is a lie based on a myth and perpetuated by a hoax.

      Did you know that the “mother of modern feminism,” Betty Friedan, left the N.O.W. because it became a seething breeding ground for man-hating idiots? Did you know that Dr. Warren Farrell was three times the president of the NYC chapter of N.O.W., and he left because he couldn’t live with the sexual double-standards of the modern feminist movement?

      Welcome to the 21st Century. The lies are being exposed. The bullshit is being called onto the carpet, and women are either going to admit that their precious “movement” was nothing but a pack of self-serving lies that has done nothing, nothing! to further the welfare of women, but only to advance Marxism and the political left.

      The London School of Economics did an extensive survey of women’s general satisfaction in life, and found that over the course of the feminist movement, women were overwhelmingly less satisfied with their lives than they were in the 1950s! A similar study was done by an American university…same findings. Women consider themselves worse off than ever.

      Great fucking job, feminists!

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    • Alpha Cat
      Aug 02, 2011 @ 09:46:17

      Truth. Cold hard truth.

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  4. Zorro
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 18:44:12

    @Liza:

    If you want to have an adult conversation about the realities of feminism, you need to bone up. Read The Woman Racket by Steve Moxon. That one book will clue you in on why feminism is, literally, an anti-female,/b> political agenda.
    Moxon exposed the hypocrisy and stupidity of the British Immigration policy that lead to the Immigration Minister resigning in shame and scandal. His next project was the gender war in England. That book clearly lays out why a political feminist agenda does nothing to help women, and in fact only interferes TO DETRIMENT with economic growth and social order.

    Feminism is the worst thing our country has engaged in since slavery. Literally!

    I’ve done my research. Go hyperventilate over someone else.

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  5. Liza207
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 18:52:30

    Neecy, great post. I’m beginning to lose hope. We’re in deep doo doo.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:43:51

      I thought that way, but then after talking with my aunt yesterday (she is 39 and married with kids) she was telling me that I don’t know how much I have it made being single, attractive and able to do whatever I want, go wherever I want whenever I want. She says if I need to have sex just find someone i can connect with to get that fill. she and her friends all are envious of my single life. LOL. She’s always saying “you can go out and buy whatever you want and don’t have to answer to anyone. You don’t have kids so you can spend all your money on YOU” LOL. So maybe marriage and LTR’s its not what its all cracked up to be?

      I still want a man that I can connect with on a deeper level. i guess the grass always looks greener on the other side.

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      • Liza207
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:01:11

        Neecy, really don’t envy married women especially if they have children. I would just love someone, like you said, that I can have a connect with and of course great sex.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 02:32:29

        yeah not every woman wants kids or wants to be married. Some women are simply content with having a great companion and great sex partner in one.

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      • Zorro
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 09:55:26

        You might want to check out Singled Out: How Singles are Stereotyped, Stigmatized, and Ignored and Still Live Happily Ever After by Dr. Bella DePaulo. She’s a Harvard Ph.D. who spent her life studying the living patterns between married people and single people, and she found that single people (men and women) are subject to the most ridiculous lies and distortions. Examples: Married men live longer than single men. Lie! Married men are healthier than single men. Lie! Married men are more moral and well-behaved than single men (the myth that women “civilize” men). Lie!

        There is a whole chapter on single women you will love (Chapter 7).

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    • Liza207
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:18:04

      I should admit that I’m commit phobic as well and I’ve been working on that for the past two years. I think there are a lot of women who suffer from commit phobia, especially, in this day and age. I’m a child of divorce and I believe that women of GenX have big issues with commit due to divorced parents and single parenthood.

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      • Zorro
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:24:49

        As someone who grew up in a screwy family, I honestly wish you the best of everything. May your life turn out a pageant of happiness and joy, with the love of the planet seeping into your every pore.

        From my heart.

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      • Liza207
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:43:24

        Women at one time in our history a woman had to walk around with a big red A painted on her chest if she was unfaithful to her husband. How come when a man stepped of side of his marriage he was not put this humilitation? Prostitutes were social outcasts and can’t compare to married or chasted women. You have female casturation in Africa. Why? It’s a means of controlling the sexually of women. Every culture has employed some means of controling female sexually. And yes, feminism made it easier for women to express their sexually with less ostracism.

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      • Neil Hansen
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 21:11:21

        If you’re familiar with the Scarlet Letter then you will also know that personal growth, sympathy, and understanding of others was the result of her ostracization, while stagnation remained with the villagers. That book was written in the context of puritanism, which it critiques. She had a baby out of wedlock, and so she was ostracized. If you think men who sire illegitimate kids are given a pass, I don’t know what world you are living in. If I were to get a woman pregnant with no intention of marrying her, my entire extended family would ostracize me. No, I am not joking. There are some – fabulously wealthy people – who can afford to go the single mother route, or have kids out of wedlock. But all the rest of us cannot, and we have to live with restrictions. Your problem, Liza, is one of class, not gender. You want all the rights of the very wealthy. So to answer your question, yes, men were very much shunned and humiliated if they have kids out of wedlock.

        Prostitutes were social outcasts and made so – by women. The reason why is they lower the price of sex.

        As for female castration, I am familiar with the topic but yes, that does sound rather harsh.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 02:33:47

        I think the longer a woman stays single the harder it is to committ to a LTR or marriage b/c you get so used to going and doing what you want whenever you want. I can imagine it must certainly be a difficult transition after a certain point.

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      • Liza207
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 14:20:34

        “She’s a Harvard Ph.D. who spent her life studying the living patterns between married people and single people, and she found that single people (men and women) are subject to the most ridiculous lies and distortions. ”

        I definitely believe that society likes to distort singlehood. I believe it’s done to make marriage appealing. Society tends to function better when there are more married people. So, there has always been an attempt to make singlehood appear undesirable. What I always thought was ridiculous was when studies would say that married people are less stressed than single people, how does that make sense? How is being your only responsibility stressful? Wouldn’t being responsible for the lives of others cause stress? Absolute nonsense.

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      • Liza207
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 14:47:02

        I’m definitely set in my ways at this point. And it’s going to difficult,so he has to be worth me having to make room for him in my life.

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  6. Neil Hansen
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:11:26

    I don’t agree with Zorro on the full blown matriarchy since the 1800’s assertion. I actually dislike confrontational views, so for the record I would like to distance myself from Zorro. I think you are way too combative. I prefer a nuanced view. Blame is for children. What I do believe is that prior to the sexual revolution, society was too homosocial and everyone knew changes had to come. Men had too much power, and women very little. This I believe. But what I also believe is that we evolve – as a species. Whatever happens to one sex will automatically be adjusted by the opposite sex. So we need to get real about sex. How did men control female sex historically? This is not an intelligent question, in my opinion, because it assumes that all sex historically was rape. The only controlled sex is rape. There is no other way to control sex, but through rape. So if we agree that most women historically co-signed to the sex act, then we will see that men never actually “controlled sex.” What we do know is that sexuality was at one time restrained. Do you see how one word can literally change everything? Why would there ever be a need for restrained sexuality? I think the answer is quite simple: disease and promiscuity will not lead to a good life. So now we can see that sex is actually pushed in a certain direction. This should be obvious, though. Don’t we all want sex to result in positive outcomes? The question now becomes, is that direction just? Historically, at least amongst the advanced societies, restrained sexuality led to wealth, education and leisure time. Unrestrained sexuality was left to poorer peoples. This doesn’t mean poorer peoples were “bad” or “immoral” or what have you. It just meant they were…poorer.

    So did men control female sexuality? I don’t think so. I don’t think any advanced society made it past the agricultural phase without the co-signing of females.

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    • Zorro
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:22:38

      The Woman Racket by Steve Moxon.

      Read it. Expand your mind.

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    • Liza207
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 19:39:00

      Weren’t women often socially ostracized for being sexually promiscuous? There are other ways to control someone without employing physical means, right? Of course, rape is the most physical way of controlling sex. But, there are also mental, psychological and emotional means of control as well. And all of these means were employed in order to control the sexuality of women including rape.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:10:57

      Neil,

      I’m with you. I don’t believe that men ever “controlled” female sexuality in the sense that women would be punished for being promiscuous. If so, prostitution would have never been around. Women during those times seem to have understood the effects of sex and how to use that to get what she needed from a man – commitment and marriage. THAT was the sole reason women remained chaste IMO. It was both male and females (usually older) that encouraged female chasteness. When feminism came along, it blew the cover off the pot and told women they do not have to remain chaste b/c men don’t. It sought to even the playing field sexually on all levels with males and females without considering the biological differences and drivers of men and women in the relationship/sex arena. It encouraged women to take a masculine approach to sex. And that is what we have today.

      I believe in the past there were more cultural reasons for a woman’s chasteness – to create and build stronger family structures, to increase wealth amongst the generations. As I said previously, i believe the sole reason males willingly enter into LTR’s or marriages is primarily to have a consistent release for their libido’s (which is proven to be higher in males) – nowadays men do not need to commit to get their never ending need for release and we see the results. Second reason males enter into LTR’s or marriage is, to create and build stronger families and have a legacy. if women and men were not marrying and were simply sleeping around, you cannot build a strong infrastructure family wise or economically. You also have increased STD’s (which we see today more than ever). Its proven that marriage for many people builds healthier more stable children and better communities. look at kids today compared to the past? See a difference? I do. I use Blacks as a great example. Before the Black community started this “sexual revolution” and started having OOW kids as the norm, Black families, communities and people were in tact and thriving. Even with the extreme OVERT racism in those days. NOW? Black people/communities are at their worse – that is b/c of the breakdown in the nuclear family stricture and the increased insistence on random sex. The disease rate within the Black community has also quadrupled since those times.

      sexuality and how its practiced is how the current culture emphasizes and encourages sex. Feminism encouraged women to have sexual freedom and that is what women started doing – more so to show men they too can do it. i personally don’t believe women enjoy sleeping around naturally. I know quite a few female friends who sleep around and they are not really happy women by any means and don’t enjoy it in the long run. They want what every woman wants – an emotional connection to a man she loves and loves her back. i believe women do it b/c they understand sex is what drives men and they want male affection by any means necessary – the easiest way to get it and get attention from males is through sex. Its harder to gain a man’s commitment. When culture says its okay for women to be promiscuous and that sex is “empowering” for women, then you have a generation of women who will use sex as a way to feel empowered over her body AND a way to gain male affections/acknowledgement. but its a false sense of empowerment started by FEMINISM – not males.

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      • Zorro
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:15:03

        …casually walks over to the Neecy, and, cradling her gorgeous face in his hands, plops a sumptuous, moist kisserino onto her plump Nubian lips, acknowledging her spectacular intellect and generosity of spirit.

        You go, girl!

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      • Liza207
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:37:45

        Women at one time in our history a woman had to walk around with a big red A painted on her chest if she was unfaithful to her husband. How come when a man stepped of side of his marriage he was put humilitation? Prostitutes were social outcasts and can’t compare to married or chasted women. You have female casturation in Africa. Why? It’s a means of controlling the sexually of women. Every culture has employed some means of controling female sexually. And yes, feminism made it easier for women to express their sexually with less ostracism.

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      • Zorro
        Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:43:12

        The Scarlet Letter?

        Okay. I’m going to bow out of this and let you take it wherever you like. I’m finished.

        There is apparently a divide in the historical background between us, and I don’t want to get personal.

        A small piece of advice: Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Learn to do your own research.

        What you’ve been told is a pack of horseshit. I know. I also had to re-educate myself.

        Let me know when you’ve updated your input data.

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    • Zorro
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 21:32:21

      That female castration shit in Africa is (and I hate to say this) completely voluntary. It is considered a sign of a woman’s passage into adulthood, and so is prized by the [victims!!!] of this barbaric procedure.

      I am against all forms of human genital mutilation, including circumcision. A birthright is a birthright.

      I am so disgusted, I can’t continue.

      I’m sensitive (believe it or not). I can’t deal with human depravity.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 02:36:27

        Zorro its not voluntary at all. young women have no say in whether they want their clitorises sliced off. The older women who have alreayd had thier sliced do participate b/c they already had htier cut so they have no qualms in subjecting young womne to it. Young African women have no coice but to accept it. many young African women try to escape to avoid this torture.

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  7. Neil Hansen
    Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:05:15

    Perhaps but my point is, why would a woman be ostracized for being promiscuous? Of course, men were also ostracized for being promiscuous. If a man knocked a woman up, he would be met with a shotgun by the woman’s father and forced to marry her, whether he liked it or not. So why were both men and women ostracized for being promiscuous?

    Do you see the subtle change in direction I am making. I do not disagree that promiscuous people were ostracized. But what I am also saying is that our modern notions of sexual propriety are different now. In a small village promiscuity may lead to jealousy – from either sex. In a modern big city in 2011, promiscuity doesn’t really mean anything.

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    • Zorro
      Aug 01, 2011 @ 20:10:42

      “In a modern big city in 2011, promiscuity doesn’t really mean anything.”

      Wow. Care to develop that point, Neil?

      Promiscuity is a central point of the double-standard between men and women. Men who are “successful” with the ladies are cheered. Women who “sleep around” are vilified.

      It’s biological. Not cultural. It’s unfair, it’s wrong, and it’s the way humans are.

      When you muscle up and face humanity for what it authentically is, prepare to be very disappointed. Human beings are not remotely what we’d like to think we are.

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  8. Alpha Cat
    Aug 02, 2011 @ 09:53:58

    Zorry says “When you muscle up and face humanity for what it authentically is, prepare to be very disappointed. Human beings are not remotely what we’d like to think we are.”

    Agreed.

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  9. Zorro
    Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:13:55

    “but the reality is when women hit mid 30′s and up, still look good, they are looked down and seen as inferioir by men thier age and older…”

    1. you misspelled “their”
    2. The reality is that when I see a mature (read: experienced, reflective, sophisticated, intelligent, etc.) woman, my every gene screams for me to give her spectacular, Earth-shattering CUNNILINGUS and make her squirt in my face like the sexual firehose God meant her to be!

    Young women today just don’t do it for me. I got nothing against them, but they don’t have the feminine mojo that Army WACs had in WW2.

    Google Bettie Page. Older women are HAWT!

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    • Liza207
      Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:29:54

      Zorro,

      If you don’t mind telling, how old are you?

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    • Neecy
      Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:34:25

      Z,

      (1) I ALWAYS misspell “their” simply b/c my fingers when typing love typing the “i” before the “e” first. LOL. Sometimes I spell check, other times i just hit the post comment button. i’m sowwy.

      (2) Where are the rest of the men like you!!!???

      i can definitley say that yes, i do believe women hit their beauty peaks earlier in life than later. But that still doesn’t mean a woman doesn’t look great and attractive in her 30’s and 40’s.

      (3) DAMN you got cunninlings like that?! LOL Honestly there was only one time a guy made me squirt down there by doing that (sorry everyone! TMI i know but its my blog and I can say what I want!!!!). LOL

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      • Liza207
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:47:43

        LOL!

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      • Zorro
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:48:58

        (1) go slower when you type.
        (2) there are no other men like me. I’m one of a kind.
        (3) Women’s Anatomy of Arousal: Secret Maps to Buried Pleasure by Sheri Winston, CNM, RN, BSN, LMT. Mandatory reading for all heterosexual men. It explains fully why and how EARTH-SHATTERING CUNNILINGUS is a requirement of a healthy relationship. I also read about 8 other books on going down on her, and silly ridiculous numbers of DVDs.

        Your pussy. My mouth. Not. Even. Funny.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:53:57

        “Your pussy. My mouth. Not. Even. Funny.”

        OOOOOOOO. MMMMMMMMMMMM. GGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  10. Neecy
    Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:28:08

    ZORRO,

    Man i feel like i should be offering you something in return for all your insane knowledge! LOL

    Its so true, single people over a certain age are so trashed its not even funny. Single men catch it to. Its like something must be wrong with them (usually GAY is the first thing that people say). Its so ridiculous. If you are single and attractive there is something wrong with you to most people. For women, they feel that if you still look attractive and don’t have a man, then its YOU who has some sort of problem. That is so beyond the truth. my own mother and grandmother are guilty of this. They cannot understand why i don’t have a b/f or hubby yet. I keep telling them how hard it is to find a decent guy who is not trying to bed you within 30 secs of meeting you and who flees within 30 secs of realizing they are not getting any booty. LOL. They don’t understand it at ALL. They came from a different era where men were more willing to commit and settle down. Men don’t have to these days and so any women with a sliver of self respect and pride left is out if the game.

    LIZA,
    I noticed this too. Often times people are talking about how stressful it is being single over married. I don’t understand that b/c as you said when you are single its just you. But then some people do allow loneliness to kick in and that is when singlehood is not good for women or people. Luckily for me I have a great family & friends who lives in close proximity to me. So if I need to be around love and support, I have my family. They are soo important for women who are single and not married with kids. Girlfriends/friends are too. But any woman who doesn’t have either will and just focuses on her job/career will find herself depressed about being single and even stressed out. I just read an article on how young attractive single women are committing suicide. Its sad b/c it seems they have bought into the idea that b/c they are single and not married with the 2.5 kids, they are worthless and something is wrong with them.

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    • Zorro
      Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:35:50

      We live in strange times. Women with no husband or boyfriend are accused of being hostile, bitchy, etc., and maybe they are, but there’s no reason to suspect this. Men my age (51 in 4 weeks) are accused of being gay, stupid, losers, etc.

      Marriage is a serious, serious thing, and divorce can destroy your life (especially if you’re a guy).

      Do not let people pigeon-hole you into a lifeset that means nothing to you. You life YOUR life! I will live my life and I don’t care about other people’s opinions. I give free reign to gay marriage, marriage, single life, whatever. I am not the almighty dictator of the universe, and I hate people who act like they are. I’m all over Freedom!

      Still, I want to spank you. Haul you over Daddy’s lap and give you a paddling that brings tears of ecstasy to your eyes. It’s a thing with me. You are such a cute little baby-girl!

      And cradle your face in my hands when I plant kisses on you.

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      • Neecy
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:47:40

        I agree Z. Poor men who are older and single catch holy hell. i am starting to realize maybe it is smarter for men who do not want children to never marry b/c women today can be a mess when it comes to marriage. i never understood this idea that once a woman gets married she cuts back on the sex. HUH? That is the main reason men marry and that os the one time women should be swinging fromt he chandeliers! – b/c they are having sexx from someone they know and trust. Instead its when people are single when they do all the crazy sex stuff with strangers. *sigh* we live in such a backwards society. LOL SO in essence marriage today for men *can* be a messay situation if they are not with the right gal.

        I remember I was out and there was a older White couple. We were all just chit chatting and the topic of their 2 sons came up. One of their sons is in his early 30’s (single) and the other is close to 40 (married). The mom said the older married son is always hounding and giving the younger brother a really hard time for not being married. Saying “when i was your age I was already settled downa nd married. You need to get it together!”. She said the younger one is still out having fun etc. The mom even admitted that while she never gets in between it, she feels her older son is jealous of his younger brother – even though he has more material htings and money than the younger brother.

        I don’t mind spankies but i don’t want to relive the ones I got from mommy and daddy. There is a fine line between getting a nice few taps on the butt vs. a full on beat down. LOL

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      • Zorro
        Aug 02, 2011 @ 17:45:04

        All you have to know is that Daddy loves you and cares for you. You are his baby-girl, and you need his firm masculine care. Your hienie will do the talking.

        After the spanking comes the tongue-bath.

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    • Liza207
      Aug 02, 2011 @ 16:45:00

      OMG, there are women committing suicide because they are depressed about being single. I guess they drank the kool-aid. There is way too much pressure put on women to be attached. And I’m sick of hearing that if you are attactive and single and of a certain age that you’re the problem. And you’re filled with bitterness. I have standards. I guess, if dropped them, I’d be attached 10 mins from now but I’ve never desperate for a relationship.

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  11. Marellus
    Aug 02, 2011 @ 23:14:27

    Congrats Neecy.

    You have more comments on your blog, than some of the more serious blogs I’m following. As to age all I can say is this … men’s obsession with younger women are fuelled by regret.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 03, 2011 @ 06:37:51

      Hi Marellus! – Welcome to the blog!,

      Can you expand on your last sentence. When you say fuelled by regret do you mean they regret obsessing over younger women or they are fuelled by regret after being with older women thus driven to younger girls?

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      • Marellus
        Aug 03, 2011 @ 11:02:00

        We all have that someone in our past with that terrible label of “coulda, woulda, shoulda …” And sometimes we see that someone in a young pretty face, and then we’re back to being stupid teenagers again … headed for more regret …

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      • Neecy
        Aug 04, 2011 @ 05:35:59

        SO true.. I understand now.

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  12. Ernst Hof
    Aug 05, 2011 @ 15:22:09

    Interesting post. Didn’t read everything in detail but as for the overall message, you’re completely right. Very perceptive post, especially from a woman!

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