Move over fellas! There’s new HORNDOGS in town and they are?

WOMEN.

“The great question that has never been answered and which I have not yet been able to answer, despite my 30 years of research into the feminine soul, is, What does a woman want?” ~ Meredith Chivers PHD (clinical psychologist, scientist of sexual behavior/research)

What do Neecy, Mother Teresa, Hillary Clinton, your mother,  your first grade female school teacher, a nunn, female midgets, supermodels, Liza *waving* (hey girl!) and all women with a vagina have in common?

We get hot and wet watching  hot  sex *monkey* sex!  Yes I emphasized *monkeys* –  REAL MONKEYS. Fellas you no longer carry the torch or trophy for being the biggest most indiscriminatory horn dogs on planet earth. Please hand over the title, trophy and torch to the ladies. *holding out hand* Thanks!

Now you might be saying “who the hell gets happy about being turned on by monkeys and apes having sex?” I’m not happy I am just shocked to hear this.  HOLD UP now I am not condoning bestiality or saying that women should be proud of getting hot at the viewing of two apes hitting skins! I will have you know there is SCIENTIFIC DATA that has found this incredibly arousing truth.  

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=all

According to a sexual behavioral scientist Meridith  Chivers who studied male and female arousal in bonobo (a species of apes) pornography as well as sexual intimacy between heterosexual males/females, homosexual male/females  – women were found to be  aroused by the viewing of any kind of sex act (including apes having hot monkey sex) while men are more “categorically” aroused and unmoved by the primates and other men getting busy.

But what was most surprising, for all we hear and KNOW about how men are such HORN DOGS you would think they would be the ones to be aroused by almost any kind of sexual act upon viewing right? NOPE! Men just like their aroused penises are pretty straight forward (and psychologically aware) about what arouses them and gets blood flowing to their genitals. Yeah ladies, the fellas are not moved by watching hot monkey sex. We can no longer pin the tail on that donkey for men being the biggest horn dog gender alive!

To add, it didn’t matter the sexual orientation  of the females either. A straight woman was equally aroused by watching heterosexual sex, homosexual sex of both men and women, looking at a naked woman, a female masturbating, a man masturbating – but had no response to a naked non erect man. Men OTOH if they were straight, were only turned on by the heterosexual sex, female masturbation  and lesbian sex.  They were unmoved by watching the male/male sex and the hot monkey sex. And homosexual men were simply turned on by their categorically defined sexuality – male homosexual sex. Another researcher has shown this to be true:

Fullerton, has employed surveys of thousands of subjects to demonstrate over the past few years that while men with high sex drives report an even more polarized pattern of attraction than most males (to women for heterosexuals and to men for homosexuals), in women the opposite is generally true: the higher the drive, the greater the attraction to both sexes, though this may not be so for lesbians.

So How did Chivers measure the arousal patterns in men and women viewing the various erotica? She strapped on (hehe) a device called a <strong>plethysmographs</strong> to all the male and female participants. This device measured the rise and swelling of blood flow to the male genitalia when aroused and the moisture and blood flow of the female genitalia when aroused. She also took mental notes from all the participants by having them rate on a keypad how aroused they felt after viewing each erotic situation. . What did she find?  – once again men are pretty practical and straightforward and aware of what arouses them.

And for the male participants, the subjective ratings on the keypad matched the readings of the plethysmograph. The men’s minds and genitals were in agreement

OTOH us ladies are not so in tune about what makes us hot under the collar hot inside the panties. we *think* we know what makes us hot and horny.  What we said we were turned on by and what our ginas said we were turned on by was compleeeetly out of synch:

….And with the women, especially the straight women, mind and genitals seemed scarcely to belong to the same person….. The readings from the plethysmograph and the keypad weren’t in much accord…….No matter what their self-proclaimed sexual orientation, they showed, on the whole, strong and swift genital arousal when the screen offered men with men, women with women and women with men. They responded objectively much more to the exercising woman than to the strolling man, and their blood flow rose quickly — and markedly, though to a lesser degree than during all the human scenes except the footage of the ambling, strapping man — as they watched the apes.

To further prove that women are in fact the indiscrimanatory horn dogs who will get hot and wet at the sight of anything sexual vs. non sexual:

And she wondered if the theory explained why heterosexual women responded genitally more to the exercising woman than to the ambling man. Possibly, she said, the exposure and tilt of the woman’s vulva during her calisthenics was proc­essed as a sexual signal while the man’s unerect penis registered in the opposite way.

Oh boy is this a doozy that the fellas are going to have a field day with. LOL

Now b/c I love yall so much I have to share a little incident that happened with me that came to mind after reading this. One day I was sitting idle in my car on my cell phone, when I noticed on my drivers side window two small nat like insects getting busy. They weren’t big as flies but not as small as nats either. I don’t know what the hell they were. But they were literally connected like a worm or something. But you could tell the difference between the male and female and they were at opposite ends. But I was FASCINATED watching them screw on my window! I also could tell the male from the  female was and it was so funny b/c she looked like she was trying to grip onto the window for dear life while he was just going for broke sliding and slipping upward and downward on the window. She remained in one spot focusing on not falling off the window (leave it to the woman to care about the safety of all first).  I sat and watched this for 20 minutes until they were done and flew off. Now who does this? Watch and become fascinated by insects having sex? I DO! But I have scientific data to back up the fact that I am not some lone crazy chick who was moved by watching insects get busy on my car window. based on this study ALL women would have been turned on by watching the insects b/c it was a sexual act. YAY ME for not being a sole, lone looney!!!

So the question is WTH is going on ladies? What is it that makes males more narrowly aroused and us, more widely aroused?

she hopes one day to develop a scientifically supported model to explain female sexual response, though she wrestles, for the moment, with the preliminary bits of perplexing evidence she has collected — with the question, first, of why women are aroused physiologically by such a wider range of stimuli than men. Are men simply more inhibited, more constrained by the bounds of culture?

But hasn’t it been reported the opposite for so long – that WOMEN are the ones  restrained and inhibited sexually by bounds of culture than males,  who in a patriarchal world would have less inhibitions and constraints regarding their sexuality than women? Think back to the days before feminism and how women were often socially out casted for being promiscuous or sexually liberated. Interesting… She also adds:

Certainly women are very sexual and have the capacity to be even more sexual than men, but one possibility is that instead of it being a go-out-there-and-get-it kind of sexuality, it’s more of a reactive process.

I can kind of understand this. Women too are very horny in general and its always been thought that a woman would be least likely to go out and seek sexual intimacy as quickly and as readily as a male would. We can make a case that these days it isn’t true. But for a truly feminine woman by nature she would not seek out or need sexual releases without emotional attachment and commitments compared to her male counterparts who are equally as horny. It was always my thought that women can contain sexual needs for release for the *right* time and situation much more than males.

Chivers said she has considered, too, research suggesting that men are better able than women to perceive increases in heart rate at moments of heightened stress and that men may rely more on such physiological signals to define their emotional states, while women depend more on situational cues. So there are hints, she told me, that the disparity between the objective and the subjective might exist, for women, in areas other than sex.

This makes sense and partly answers my confusion above.  That in the right setting and situation is when women are more likely to acknowledge their heightened arousal for a man or sexual  encounter. Which makes sense as to why women didn’t really recognize that their ginas were getting wet for erotica that they consciously didn’t feel turned on by. It seems that women separate their conscious sexual desires and feelings from their actual physiological sexual arousals b/c the situations don’t necessarily call for her to have a conscious arousal. But for men they simply recognize in their heads AND bodies they are horny b/c their bodies tell them and react accordingly. They are less inclined to look for a situational reason and simply rely on what is happening both mentally and physically simultaneously at that moment.

Also the topic of  creating drugs for women to help with arousal as men have (Viagra) she seems to feel the reason such drugs don’t need to exist for women is b/c as mentioned above – there is a disconnect between the mind and body of female arousal:

In women, though, the main difficulty appears to be in the mind, not the body, so the physiological effects of the drugs have proved irrelevant. The pills can promote blood flow and lubrication, but this doesn’t do much to create a conscious sense of desire…. Among her answers, based partly on her own research and on her analysis of animal mating and women’s sexuality, is that female desire may be dictated — even more than popular perception would have it — by intimacy, by emotional connection.

Makes sense. Interesting stuff indeed. Can’t wait to see more studies on female sexuality.

And I would like to end this thread with an amazing discovery also discussed in the article by another researcher. Ladies, get your thinking caps on b/c an orgasm is juuust around the corner if you just THINK IT! 😀

in 1992 Komisaruk, collaborating with the Rutgers sexologist Beverly Whipple (who established, more or less, the existence of the G spot in the ’80s), carried out one of the most interesting experiments in female sexuality: by measuring heart rate, perspiration, pupil dilation and pain threshold, they proved that some rare women can think themselves to climax.

 

Now fellas you may begin the laughing, finger pointing, teasing….

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55 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. zorro
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 20:14:59

    Women get off watching monkeys do it?!

    Eeeeewwwwwwwwwww!

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  2. zorro
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 20:46:07

    AP/UPI (Philadelphia): Researches at the Philadelphia Zoo made a startling announcement today when they revealed security camera footage of a man and his girlfriend having sex in the monkey house. The couple were alone–save for nine pairs of bonobos in adjoining cages–when the woman partially disrobed, presumably prompting the man to drop his trousers and engage in coitus maximus.

    “We are fairly certain that the woman’s subtle physical cue of disrobing prompted the man to put himself forward for mating, but that’s just a theory we learned on an internet blog. What was even more stunning was the reaction of the bonobos. The female apes, as you can see in the video, took a particular interest in watching the human mating ritual, while the males merely threw feces at the man. ”

    Scientists on site suspect that the males were jealous, as the female bonobos have been on a sex strike in an attempt to elicit more gentlemanly behavior from the males. Female researches did not give much credibility to this as a working theory, as males in most species tend to be rather dense until sex is withheld for an extended period.

    “We plan to install more videocameras, as well as lower the price for admission to the monkey house for college students.”

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  3. zorro
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 00:16:18

    “the woman’s subtle physical cue of disrobing prompted the man to put himself forward for mating, but that’s just a theory we learned on an internet blog.”

    That should have tipped you off. And if it didn’t, then…

    “the female bonobos have been on a sex strike in an attempt to elicit more gentlemanly behavior from the males…

    …should have.

    Moose Journalism.

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  4. n/a
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 02:20:24

    That’s funny — I was just about to tell you that *you* strike me as a *very* horny girl. And that you hide it and evade it well.

    It’s an intensely sublimated lust that allows you to write — so much. 😉

    “Gnat,” Neecy. Gnats love to be seen fucking, it’s a well-known fact, but they blush when you spell their name wrong in the review.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 08:47:00

      Isn’t that how it works N/A? The horniest people are generally the ones not getting any? LOL Yeah I won’t lie I am a horny girl although i don’t quite act on it despite the level of horniness i feel often.

      So my wiring is “lustful”? haha!

      Oh BTW just consider yourself one of the many here who has to keep me honest and correct me when I spell an obvious word wrong. Trust and believe there will be many more of those spelling errors. LOL *bad girl neecy, bad bad girl!* Sorry! 🙂

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  5. Zorro
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 06:40:17

    Just for *shit’s sake,* I want to announce to Planet Earth the following:

    ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM is the superior shit! Brazilian jazz. bossa nova.

    Oh. My. God!

    You have to hear this majesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I want to dance to this with a smokin’ hawt black American chick who is TOTALLY in to pineapple!!!!

    Yum. Motherfuckin’ Yum!

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    • Neecy
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 08:47:54

      I love doing ZUMBA which is a nice mix of Latin jazz….

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    • zorro
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 15:20:02

      [This is what happens when I get off a 12-hour shift and pour a little too much vodka before hitting the sack and playing music too loud. Sorry.]

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      • Neecy
        Sep 22, 2011 @ 20:48:28

        LOL Zorro! Its all good it happens to the best of us 😉

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        • Zorro
          Sep 23, 2011 @ 06:07:00

          Not to put you on the spot, but out of curiosity, have you been reading The Woman Racket, which you said you received?

          No hurry. Just askin’. I am looking forward to your most awesome Neeciness impressive posts!

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          • Neecy
            Sep 23, 2011 @ 09:15:54

            I have been so overwhelmed with stuff this month I havent gotten to it. Plus my boss has me reading something now to help me with organizing my life b/c I feel so overwhelmed with everything. So I promise when I’m done with that I will read it!

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  6. Liza207
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 07:51:59

    Wow! Neecy, you really went there on this one. Gnat and monkey sex! LOL!

    But, in all seriousness, I find this to be true in my case anyway. Yes, watching any kind of sex going down does it for me. Except for maybe chick on chick, watching two women having sex is like watching someone eat an ice cream cone to me…boring as hell. For me, if there isn’t an actual penis involved then I am not feeling it.

    There is almost another dynamic about female arousal that just came to mind; we also get aroused from reading about sex acts. How many women read romance novels (I used to OD on them in high school) which are all written for women and has been a very successful market for many years? Yep, we are the true horn dogs.

    Now, I know the real reason why men have been so vigilant about having to control our sexuality. Can you imagine if we were allowed to indulge in our every sexual desire from the get go.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 08:59:18

      Liza LOL.

      Yes watching or hearing someone describe detailed sex does it for me. But like you, chick on chick doesn’t really do anything for me. I tend to only get hot at the site or description of PENETRATIONAL sex. Weird thing. I consciously thought the act of two men having sex together was more than I could imagine or bear. But out of curiousity I once viewed male/male porn and found I was just as aroused as watching male/female porn. And I chalked that up to the fact that watching any kind of sex where there is penetration, turns me on.

      I think we are seeing today that women are not as inhibited as men believed us to be for so long. But its still scarey b/c I firmly believe women should be the sex that exercises more restraint in having sex (not when in committed relationships but for casual sexual encounters and ONS). IOW’s I never really believed it to be in a woman’s nature to just go out and be promiscuous. I believe the article pointed to that, that while women typically have a wider arousal pattern for sex than males, its not a “go out and get it” kind of arousal. She said its more reactive which makes sense to me.

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      • Liza207
        Sep 22, 2011 @ 09:12:45

        Yeah, we are more controlled and restrained when it comes to sex–unlike men we can get pregnant, so we have to be more in control of our sexual urges.

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        • Neecy
          Sep 22, 2011 @ 09:31:37

          Not only for pregnancy reasons, but for emotional and psychological reasons too. I just think its nasty to sleep around and indulge in every sexual desire one has. I can tell you I am horny as a mofo *most* of the time. I can easily go out and get my needs fulfilled regularly but its just silly to me. In that case I would be having sex everyday with a guy or guys who I am not in a committed relationship with.

          I think so many women are just unsettled at the thought of simply accepting horniess and letting it run its toll through the body without needing to actually DO IT with just anybody. Also women don’t seem to understand that we’d HAVE more committed relationships with men who we could do all kinds of sexual acts with if so many women stopped opening their legs so easily for casual sexual encounters with men. Men today do not need to commit or anything to get sex.

          I just think so many people believe b/c they have sexual desires they need to go out and just sleep with any and everybody. Self-discipline is definitely something more women need to exercise when it comes to sex – and not just for pregnancy issues (which I know this is not what you were saying but some women simply believe the only reason to not sleep around is b/c they could get pregnant). The more women lowering their sexual promiscuity means more men have no choice but to lower their promiscuity as well. And with sexual promiscuity in women comes emotional and psychological issued MOST of the time.

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          • Liza207
            Sep 22, 2011 @ 09:45:45

            Also women don’t seem to understand that we’d HAVE more committed relationships with men who we could do all kinds of sexual acts with if so many women stopped opening their legs so easily for casual sexual encounters with men. Men today do not need to commit or anything to get sex.


            We are the gatekeepers and if we decided tomorrow to stop being as promiscuous as we have become men would fall in line because they now would have to offer commitment to get laid like they use to before we lost our minds and surrendered all of our power to them.

            And yes, the need for an emotional and a psychological connection is another reason we need to practice more restraint.

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            • Liza207
              Sep 22, 2011 @ 09:55:11

              I think so many women are just unsettled at the thought of simply accepting horniess and letting it run its toll through the body without needing to actually DO IT with just anybody


              There many things that they can do to address their horniness without a guy, okay. Most of those women are seeking validation and male attention for an ego boost for the most part.

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              • Neecy
                Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:10:32

                There many things that they can do to address their horniness without a guy, okay. Most of those women are seeking validation and male attention for an ego boost for the most part.

                *fanning Liza* you are on fire girl! So true. Most of the reason so many women are willing to sleep around with men is b/c they are simply seeking validation. They believe that since men are generally driven by sex (or at least that is how they are made out to be) that appealing to that desire of his will make her more favorable in his eyes. Its like HELLO McFLY! You are appealing to the most easiest desire you can for a man – sex. Its not hard to get sex from men, so why on earth would women believe that doing so is going to make him view her in a better light and make him just fall head over heels for her? UGH!

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            • Neecy
              Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:06:47

              We are the gatekeepers and if we decided tomorrow to stop being as promiscuous as we have become men would fall in line because they now would have to offer commitment to get laid like they use to before we lost our minds and surrendered all of our power to them

              BINGO! Why women can’t seem to grasp this SIMPLE freakin concept is beyond me! But We live in a society today that rewards lack of self- discipline and control. Everything is all about immediate gratification, easy to come by – get it now! Sad.

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        • Marellus
          Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:58:54

          … unless it’s anal …

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  7. Anonymous
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 08:11:16

    Really good articles about love, life, and relationships by hives

    http://djhivesarchive.blogspot.com/2009/03/letter-from-hidden-hand.html
    http://www.djhives.com/2009/01/what-is-love.html
    http://www.djhives.com/2009/01/resoponse-to-lady-anon.html
    http://www.djhives.com/2009/04/letter-from-nottobetrustedatall.html
    http://www.djhives.com/2009/12/letter-from-appbook.html looking for love
    http://www.djhives.com/2010/04/secret-of-oprah.html feminism
    http://www.djhives.com/2011/05/letter-from-lenn-art.html feminism
    http://www.djhives.com/2011/06/letter-from-miriam.html feminism
    http://www.djhives.com/2011/09/quitting-gradschool-letter-from-miriam.html feminism
    http://www.djhives.com/2011/09/baboonery-continuessent-in-by.html
    http://www.djhives.com/2011/06/more-letters-from-berzenker-bonus.html

    “Men as you know want to be a slave to ONE woman. But they are told that the OPPOSITE is true. this puts him on the defensive, and makes him vindictive. He thinks that a woman is oppressing his freedom by her non-stop desire to settle down marry one man. The opposite is true – women will fuck anything that moves and not give a damn. ”

    “women only think about shoes, choclate, and sex”

    “WOMEN (WOMEN!!!!) are more hornier than men… by 1000 times! They are just confused — caught between teh social/reliogous/tv phychosis that tell them “MEN” are the ones wanting all the sex “men are dogs” etc…
    all nonsense… women dress for sex, and think about sex and babies ALL DAY AL THE TIME… they are literally helpess from a biological hunting/building standpoint… why? Because thats what men are for.
    As ive said a million times
    her main goal is to find a man, trap him with a baby so she can get taken care of (and her kid) for her entire life… how does she do this? By being HORNY and wanting SEX all the time…”

    “”Men only wan’t sex, only think with their d*cks and like material things like cars, and women are more caring, nutruring and affectionate, and not interested in sex, but more into emotions..etc”

    This is complete opposite BULLSHIT – but thats what the masses believe, thus they are controlled.

    Men DO NOT want sex. They want a STEADY SUPPLY of “mommy tell me I’m a good boy reinforcement” – remember they are addicted to emotional scooby-snacks – an addiction that their own mothers are responsible for. Men can go MONTHS, YEARS without sex. That is NOT his interest. The only thing he requires is someone who is ALWAYS there to tell him he is a good little chicken Mcnugget and that everything he is doing is GOOD and has a purpose.

    The woman on the other hand is OBSESSED with sexual satisfatction and desire. A blind man can see it. One look at the way ANY woman dresses is a dead giveaway – all women dress for sex – there is NO ARGUMENT. NONE. Men do not dress showing off body parts because that is not their desire. Women however do this DAILY from the moment they can dress themselves until they are WAY beyond their repoductive years. But again, ask the average moran on the street and they will sit there and tell you men are the ones looking for sex — all the while a pack of women are lurking in a bar on a saturday night with breast enancers (bras), stockings, short skirts, face paint, processed hair, high heels, and skin showing everywhere — they’ll sit there looking like this and complain that MEN are the ones always thinking about sex.

    Of course the opposite is true – yet the women believe their delusions because, again, that’s how control works, when you have a genius believing he is a retard, and when you have a retard believing he is a genius.

    People have the copacity to observe and figure this out – but the social amplifiers are too powerul for their weak minds, hence the typical woman will dress like a complete whore, day in and day out and still complain that MEN are the sex hungry ones….

    Men fall for the trick too..A man is forver worried about living up to this ‘sexual animal’ image that society has bestowed upon him, when in reality he is more interested in logic and creativity.

    The woman on the other hand suffers the opposite – rahter than feeling this great pressure to BE a sexually agressive animal in bed, she feels the need to SEXUALLY SUPPRESS her natrual wanton, deviant, sexual bee-hiviors and desires. This is where things like OPRAH come in, and COSMO magazine, and other media amplifiers that remove some of her whore guilt by placing it on men instead.

    The feelings of guilt happen between the sexes because ‘love’ is DIFFERENT for both of them. A woman could care less to hear from a man that she is a ‘good woman’ each and every day. Likewise a man could care less to get laid constantly and get a new pair of shoes each week. The problems begin when men and women feel ‘sneaky’ or ‘guilty’ about having different concepts of love – when in reality they both love giving love in order to recieve it. Women like playing ‘mommy’ it gets them ‘stuff’ (which is love to women). Men like buying women ‘stuff’ it gets them a mommy (which is love to men). Women are capeable fo buying their own pairs of shoes and dinners each week, but it’s not the same as getting it from a man. Likewise men are capeable of finding that mommy-ego stroke they need from others, but its not the same as getting it from a woman – thus both want the SAME from the opposite sex – but since SOCIETY has told both sexes that what they disire is indeed the OPPOSITE of what they TRULY desire (ie women should NOT be material – men should NOT be emotionally needy) then FEELINGS OF GUILT and RESENMENT and DISTRUST spring up when the TRUTH of their love eventually shows itself.

    Ask your mothers (if they worked) what was the very first THING they purchased with their first ever paycheck, their answer WILL BE: a pair of SHOES.”

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    • Neecy
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 09:53:48

      Anon sorry I missed your post earlier it went into my spam folder for some reason.

      Anyway, i am now recognizing that women are not as sexually repressed as we are often made out to be. But i do believe that women need to be a lot more conscious of their sexual desires and how to control them. When society has promiscuous women as a majority, society is in shambles.

      Women naturally thrive off of emotional bonding, INTIMACY (not just raw sex) and connections. It’s PHYSIOLOGICAL for us to be this way. We can’t control or change that even if we tried or wanted to. So women need to understand that yes, we do crave and desire sex but we need to go about it in ways that will serve our needs for emotional bonding and intimacy with the *RIGHT* men and not just any guy attached to a hot body and nice face or fat wallet and a penis.

      The ideal for women is that they be in committed healthy relationships with men who they can then release and indulge in all of their sexual wants desires and fantasies.

      So yes, women are just as horny as men, just as sexually in need as men but self-discipline is important for women MORESO than males b/c we have literally things and chemicals in our bodies that bond us to our sexual partner – Oxytocin. Men do not release this chemical as women do during sexual acts. Thus their needs for bonding are more psychologically controlled than a females which is more physiological. THUS, women need to be aware of this and recognize that being horny and desiring sex doesn’t mean that you should go out to seek to fulfill that desire if the situation is not prime for her – commitment with the right guy.

      Also when society has promiscuous women as a majority, a result/consequence of that is lack of committed relationships and increased promiscuous men (b/c men can only be as promiscuous as the amount of women who are opening their legs for him without being in committed relationships). Now some may say I am placing all the blame on women and not holding men accountable for their own promiscuity. Well I guess partly I am. b/C women control their sexual market place. So if women are not in control of their sexual limitations and desires, neither will men be b/c men typically can only have sex with women who allow them to have sex with them.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:01:59

      I also wanted to respond to another point you brought up in your post.

      I believe the reason many women do dress up sexy and are pro-active at looking sexy etc., is b/c they do honestly believe that this is what men desire. If the mentality is that men have this raw uncontrolled primitive desire to screw anything that comes in his path, then that means women conscious of this are going to do what they can to attract what they believe to be desirable to the opposite sex. So I cannot fully blame women there b/c a lot of women *ARE* brainwashed very early on to believe that all men want is sex sex sex and they love to be with and around sexy looking and acting women.

      Now I believe this but I am not sure to what degree men really feel this way. B/C as you said, men are also brainwashed to believe in their raw sexual “primitiveness” and therefore they will act accordingly even if this is not how they are naturally.

      Perfect example of this is Black men. Black males in society are hyper masculinized and often thought and promoted to be these sexual beasts. I believe a lot of Black men live up to this persona b/c they start believing this to be of who they are as men even if this is not really how or what they are.

      Society has a way of training people to adopt characteristics and traits that may not necessarily be natural to them. But if you see it enough, encouraged AND rewarded to be that way then you start believing it and thus begin acting in such a manner.

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      • Liza207
        Sep 22, 2011 @ 14:05:29

        Perfect example of this is Black men. Black males in society are hyper masculinized and often thought and promoted to be these sexual beasts. I believe a lot of Black men live up to this persona b/c they start believing this to be of who they are as men even if this is not really how or what they are.

        Many BM see this stereotype as positive and since most of them have very little else going for them they cling desperately to it. It is rather sad, in my opinion. I believe it has held them back and has crippled them in competing with other men for viable resources.

        Besides, they would be shocked or be in denial to find out that other groups of men, in which, they deem sexually inferior to them can bring it in the bedroom.

        They need a reality check and fast.

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    • Andrew Medina
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 11:59:29

      Dude! Thank you!

      “The only thing he requires is someone who is ALWAYS there to tell him he is a good little chicken Mcnugget and that everything he is doing is GOOD and has a purpose.”

      I’ve always wondered why I never felt alone or emotionally empty. It’s my narcissism that allows me to forgo relationships and still feel fulfilled. My emotional validation comes from dominating a challenge, not someone else’s acknowledgement thereof.

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      • Neecy
        Sep 22, 2011 @ 20:47:49

        Andrew that’s a great point. I think both men and women need to be comfortable with the idea of not always feeling a need to have a partner or companion. I think people who depend on another person for their happiness have a huge capacity to be very unhappy people and they often settle for “less than” relationships.

        As much as I muse about finding someone, at the end of the day I am fine and happy and content with myself and being single if that is what its supposed to be. I truly believe in a time and place for everything and PATIENCE. Anyone can choose someone to be in a relaitonship with, but why do that when you can make sure that if you do get into a relationship its with the *RIGHT* person and not just any old person that you needed to complete you.

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      • Emma the Emo
        Sep 25, 2011 @ 11:10:17

        Are you really a narcissist? If you aren’t a real one, then be careful, don’t fall intensely in love, or else all your narcissism might break and you’ll end up weak and pathetic like the rest of us.

        Being completely self-sufficient is amazing, but so far I haven’t been able to combine it with love. You’re either completely self-sufficient but don’t truly love, or you love, but lose some of the self-sufficiency. Because I can’t see how you can remain happy when someone you love is gravely ill/depressed/terribly unhappy.

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    • Matt
      Sep 23, 2011 @ 20:22:53

      I …., …., Wow. This ….. this is so bad it’s not even wrong. I honestly don’t even know where to begin.

      Let’s start with:
      “Men want to be a slave to ONE woman”
      Um, no we don’t. We don’t want to be a slave to anyone. We want to love and be loved, but that has nothing to do with sex. A man can sleep with multiple women and still be faithful (in the “I love no one but her” type of way) to one woman. Every heterosexual boy. Every. Single. One. will at some point have thoughts of having sex with multiple women. Some will make this happen. Other won’t (either through morality, fear, lack of ambition, etc). The point is that this fantasy is so universal it can’t be mere programming. There are always people for whom the “programming” doesn’t take. Yet, this is universal.

      “The opposite is true – women will fuck anything that moves and not give a damn.”
      Yes, this must be true. Oh wait …. there’s all kinds of women that did this and have extreme problems later on in life when their activities begin to catch up with them. Many of the women that did this have problems getting close to ANYONE, friend or romantic interest, for the rest of their lives. There’s a lady that abruptly left porn because she was emotionally battered from having sex with so many men. She has stated that she has problems forming close relationships with anyone ever since then. There are lots of stories from lots of women that express regret for having wasted their prime years sleeping around.

      I’m sure all of those women are able to “not give a damn”.

      “Men DO NOT want sex.”
      I have to ask where this little tidbit came from. Last I checked, I am a man. Hang on, let me look again …. yep, still a man. I want sex. Often. The vast majority of what I do (read, study, learn new skills, better myself, etc) is in the hopes of attracting a worthwhile woman. You can guess what the relationship will include. If you said SEX, you’re correct. If you answered her giving me “good boy reinforcements”, you’re not only wrong, but possibly ignorant of human nature too.

      Again, there are studies that show that any male that does not get sex and has little to no prospects of getting sex, becomes very lazy, doing only enough work to survive and nothing to improve himself. If men don’t want sex, why is this so?

      Which brings us to:
      “They want a STEADY SUPPLY of “mommy tell me I’m a good boy reinforcement” – remember they are addicted to emotional scooby-snacks – an addiction that their own mothers are responsible for. Men can go MONTHS, YEARS without sex. That is NOT his interest. The only thing he requires is someone who is ALWAYS there to tell him he is a good little chicken Mcnugget and that everything he is doing is GOOD and has a purpose.”

      The only types of men that I know of that will willingly do this are priests. No man outside of that group that I have ever met has willingly gone for DAYS or WEEKS let alone MONTHS or YEARS without sex. Men simply don’t do that.

      However, my biggest issue with this section is the idea that all men want “good boy reinforcements” and a new “mommy”. This is bullshit. This is bullshit of the highest caliber. Men want appreciation, NOT good boy shit. Appreciation is vastly different. Men don’t want a woman that says “ATTABOY!” when they finish a job. They want a “Thank you”. They want physical affection at reasonably intervals. They want an “I love you” at the end of a long, hard day. The ones that want a replacement for their mothers are stuck in arrested development and probably have other issues.

      “WOMEN (WOMEN!!!!) are more hornier than men… by 1000 times!”
      REALLY? Then why did both Neecy and Maya (not to mention LOTS of other women) express such surprise when men started describing what being horny felt like to men over on Roissy’s blog? If women were so much more horny than men are, they should have said something like “How quaint … that’s all you have to deal with? Here’s what it feels like for a woman …” Instead, shock. Why are there multiple studies saying that women rank sex lower than multiple other activities (ie. shopping)? If the itch for women was so damn bad, they’d have sex over doing anything else.

      Look, there are certain truths that humanity has known for a very long time. That men will have sex with any woman they find mildly attractive has been known for eons. For example, Judaism is over four THOUSAND years old. Since the very beginning, they take great pains to make sure that men and women are separated while in the synagogue. Why? Because if they don’t, men will spend more time trying to get with the ladies than they will praying. The women, so the scriptures go, do not have this problem. This is also why Jewish women are required to dress modestly. If they don’t, men will not treat them like people, but instead like sex objects. These types of observations have been made in MANY cultures around the globe at many different times. So, either cultural programming as regards sex has been exactly the same across many cultures, or human nature is that men want sex more often than women. Occam’s Razor is fairly clear here.

      “As ive said a million times her main goal is to find a man, trap him with a baby so she can get taken care of (and her kid) for her entire life… how does she do this? By being HORNY and wanting SEX all the time…””

      Um, no. There is an old saying: “Women use sex to get love, men use love to get sex.” A woman will marry a man using sex as the bait hoping that the man will provide and will love her. This doesn’t mean “BUY ME STUFF!”. It means that the man will make explicit that he loves her. That he finds her desirable. That he will devote himself to her, exclusively, for the rest of his life and beyond.

      But there is a reverse to that. A man will marry a woman using wealth and a promise to provide hoping that he’ll get sex. Speak to many married couples and you’ll probably hear from the man that he isn’t getting as much sex as he’d like. So if she’s “HORNY and wanting SEX all the time…” how is that possible? The man should be having so much sex that he wouldn’t be able to do anything else and would be complaining about never getting a break.

      This idea that all men have some raging Oedipus complex and don’t actually want sex is just bizarre. I really can’t fathom how somebody could live on this earth and come to these conclusions.

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      • Liza207
        Sep 23, 2011 @ 21:35:54

        Matt,

        Neecy, said that this comment was put into moderation by the WordPress. And I believe they probably saw it as I did–lunatic ramblings.

        The study was about female arousal and the many different things that get us stimulated sexually as compared to men–not about how oversexed or horny women are all the time.

        This guy really has some deep ceded issues.

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        • Neecy
          Sep 24, 2011 @ 09:32:28

          LOL Liza and everyone. i guess I need to be more discerning b/c I really didn’t read any of the links and thought Anon was “quoting” people and not necessarily saying those were his views. I need to re-read it again. LOL

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      • Neecy
        Sep 24, 2011 @ 09:30:52

        Matt,

        I do think in terms of horniness men and women may be somewhat on the same level but for women it really increases during reproductive cycles like menstruation. BUT, I still believe that men have more needs of *release* for their hroniness than women do. IOW’s I believe women can contain their horniness and not feel like she has to have a release everytime with a bunch of dudes, whereas men I believe have the need for a release constantly- thus leading them to want to have sex more often with tons of women.

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    • Emma the Emo
      Sep 25, 2011 @ 11:15:15

      Have you been reading the S.C.U.M. manifesto by any chance?

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  8. Marellus
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 11:12:49

    Are any of you people following the stock markets ? All hell is breaking loose, and here we are musing about sex.

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  9. Firepower
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 12:37:39

    neeecy

    What do Neecy, Mother Teresa, Hillary Clinton, your mother, your first grade female school teacher, a nunn, female midgets, supermodels, Liza *waving* (hey girl!) and all women with a vagina have in common?

    its either you can’t open jars or you dont know football

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    • Neecy
      Sep 22, 2011 @ 20:43:43

      I know how to open a can – run it under really hot hot water and it pops right open. And yes I do understand and love football too. *sticking out tongue*

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  10. MK
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 06:24:49

    99% of nearly all studies on nearly everything are complete bullshit. Real researchers improve the world in some meaningful way not watch peoples reactions to monkey sex… Worm sex turns on those who used to come back dirty from the playgrounds as 7 year olds story at 11..

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  11. Emma the Emo
    Sep 24, 2011 @ 19:04:12

    Lol, I heard about this one. Still don’t get why it works like that. I don’t get really horny watching porn anyway, and this study is telling me I am, even though it’s unfeelable.

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    • Firepower
      Sep 26, 2011 @ 10:10:18

      dont watch porn
      at your parent’s house

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    • Neecy
      Sep 26, 2011 @ 11:26:50

      Yeah Emma I agree. According to this article I get hot and wet watching female/female porn and I really don’t.

      I think what the study was really trying to get at (although it wasn’t very clear) was that women are more reactive to arousal whereas men are more directive, and that the way women process sexual arousal from men is quite different. That even if we don’t MENTALLY acknowledge something as arousal inducing, physically our bodies say differently. i think this points to the idea that women are the more “choosier” sex b/c if our minds and bodies are not in accord we will typically not enter into that sexual situations. We may be feeling horny but if our mind says this is not a prime situation to act on that horniness then we can understand that and withhold. IOW’s we need to be mentally and physically aroused.

      But for men, they just simply go by how their bodies feel. if they feel horny then its – “hey I’m horny and want to have sex” and they don’t really care who its with as long as they are physically attractive by his standards. And that’s why I believe naturally its much easier for men to engage in casual sex than most women. They process their arousal patterns quite differently and much more simply than women do.

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    • Firepower
      Sep 26, 2011 @ 12:38:30

      Emma the Emo

      I don’t get really horny watching porn anyway,

      in Belarus, do not just stare at video cassette…
      put in VCR

      (when power come back on)

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