When Bullies ATTACK and get it back!

What a sad sad world we live in. Where people sit back or join in on bullying a person and expect to get away with it without having their asses handed back to them. As if they deserve to receive any kind of respect.

I find this phenomenon today utterly reprehensible and DISGUSTING.  its so common these days that many people (kids especially) are drawn to suicide, depression and other unfortunate situations due to being unable to handle bullies.

I find that people usually pick and target individuals or groups of people who will have every little protection and defense in their corner – EASY TARGETS. Bullies love easy targets (Black women , or others who have very little protection) b/c they often can and do get away with spewing despicable, disgusting venom without consequence. Not only are bullies the problem, their quiet supporters are just as bad. People will sit quietly watching the abuse and bullying of a person(s) until it is some person or thing they feel is valuable enough to stick up for and defend. OR when suddenly the person being bullied or attacked says something that indirectly offends them. THEN they want to play Mother Teresa and tell you what is so “wrong” what you said. Funny though, they sat quietly watching vicious bullies attack you the whole time. AMAZING. Other than that, the easy targets are just fodder that deserve to be stepped on and abused.

Cyber bullying seems to be another corner where low caliber TRASHY people without morals and values feel they have a right to sit behind their computer screens and say whatever it is they want to say to ANYONE without consequence. Suddenly, when you give back to them what they dished out – you are the bad guy/girl.

Frankly,  SCREW  bullies and their enablers feelings!. I will always stand up for myself when I feel I am being cornered. I can be one of the sweetest, kindest, caring, compassionate, empathetic persons you will ever know. But if you cross me and wrongfully target me, try to bully me, or gang g up on me I am going to come back swinging and it won’t be pretty.

This is what society is all about these days. ENTITLED people who feel they can do and say anything to others and walk away unscathed. Well I got news for them and others who sit by idly watching someone get ganged up on –YOU BETTER BE PREPARED the next time you decide to throw on your BULLY CAPE to find and meet your match b/c not everyone is going to sit quietly and be wrongfully targeted and lied on b/c you have  ISSUES that you choose to take out on someone else.

I would like to put out here my version of events that happened the other day on a MALE GAME BLOG that has more chumps in school girl uniforms than men. Now some people may say its not even worth the time and  energy, but NO it is! This situation goes way beyond what just happened the other day. It’s a bigger issue that needs to be addressed b/c I am a Black woman that is UTTERLY SICK of people feeling they can target us and get away with it.

 

 

 

The fact that bullies and their cheerleaders act SHOCKED & SURPRISED when they get what they dished out further infuriates me and tells me that too many people today really don’t seem to grasp the concept of TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOUWISH TO BE TREATED. When you step out of line for NO REASON at all, you better have on your battle gear b/c you need to understand not everyone is going to sit back and take your BULLSHIT.

Most of you know me here form heartiste’s PUA site. I have been on that site since June and have endured my fair share of insults, wise cracks, bullying, and disrespect from the low life men  school girls on there. Amongst the low lives and trash males school girls there, are also decent men. Some of them lurk and don’t say anything and others post and try to show they actually didn’t come from trailer parks and ghettos based on their upstanding and respectable behavior towards others. There are I believe a small number of men who truly use that site as a way to get more needed information to help them with their social skills with women. They really want to improve to be able to have the best chances with women b/c they may have had bad experiences, too shy etc. SO it’s a great site for guys who use it in that matter. The rest of them go there to bitch and complain about women – which is also understandable. Women can be a lot to deal with and I feel men need to have their space to let it all hang out and say how they feel. Of course there will be a few women sprinkled in here and there but for the most part the women there understand the foundation and purpose of the site.

I have for the most part respected their space and over time shown that I do understand what a lot of those guys have gone through. I even created this log to also skyrocket off some of the things I feel good men have to put up with when it comes to women and dating. I certainly was never one to go there and try to preach to them or make women out to be these ANGELS who should not be called out on our actions.

DESPITE all of that, MANY times I have ignored, had a sense of humor with those UN RIGHTFULLY targeting me like a bunch of pathetic catty school girls in uniform. IN ALL CASES I was viscously attacked without MERIT while most of the men there either sat quiet with a small sample coming to my defense and telling their TRASHY LOW CALIBER Brethren to back off.

There were times I have said that I would stop participating in that blog b/c its obvious to me the majority of men (and I use that term loosely) that hang out there are IDIOTS with woman hating issues. It doesn’t matter what kind of woman you are, if you are of the female species, you deserve to be disrespected. But there are also other decent MEN there and I would still manage to have good discussions with SOME of them despite the ingrates that hang out there. Many of whom have come to my blog and participated and contributed in discussions.

“HEY EVERYBODY! LET’S PICK ON THE  BLACK WOMAN HERE  B/C SHE HAS NO PROTECTORS!!!!”

funny thing – I noticed many of the other females there have YET to receive the same VISCIOUS UNWARRANTED attacks  and HATE  on the level I have. And that brings me back to what I have ALWAYS said about how people feel BLACK FEMALES should be treated and talked to and kicked around by everyone and not have to deal with any consequences.  We are not WOMEN deserving of respect. We are not WOMEN deserving of being treated like women. We are just some species that everyone feels they can have a free for all kick around the Black girl session. This doesn’t happen just on Heartistes site BUT EVERYWHERE! The Black girl is the easy target and often *IS* the target for  those needing a little RELEASE.

And as we all know, no one seeks to protect, defend or come to the rescues of a BLACK WOMAN in many cases, so others sit by quietly walking past the abuse and not saying anything. I’m sure if I had been some fragile blonde white girl I would have somehow managed to avoid all the vicious unwarranted attacks and if there were any, I am positive there would have been EQUAL amounts of males there coming to defend me against the low life male trash that dwells there.

SO, as a result. A Black woman is left to her OWN devices and defenses. And suddenly when she STRIKES BACK its “oh my god I cannot believe how cruel and venomous you are!!” LOL! Suddenly all those quiet people who were walking by watching the abuse and the bullies  turn flush red and shocked b/c  NOW they may have been indirectly insulted as well as the targeted bullies.

Then you have those, who play the middle ground but oddly they seem to want to suddenly chastise and focus on what YOU THE VICTIM OF BULLYING did wrong by striking back. LOL They never mention once how the BULLIES and their  enablers were wrong in the first place for STARTIMNG the shit. They never point out what the bullies said and did wrong. ITS ONLY when the victimized party strikes back with IR and VIGOR (and may have insulted them in the process) that suddenly people want to talk about how “angry” and wrong you were for saying what you said to the low life TRASH that deserved it.

Well all i have to say to that is – TOO BAD! I have no qualms with defending myself  if I deem it necessary.  I try to have thick skin and  put up with A LOT before I unleash my wrath on those trying to push me in a corner. I am tired of this idea that a Black woman is to sit quietly while she be attacked and kicked by people who think they will get away with it and walk away unscathed.

Maybe the next time they will think before they WRONGFULLY TARGET a person who did not deserve it.

I beg of any of you to go to the thread where the drama unfolded on that site, READ my initial comment and the subsequent posts after that. Tell me how thee fk that one original comment I made was deserving of all the utterly disgusting attacks made to me after that?  Maybe those guys all got turned down by pharma reps and are bitter and angry and want to take it out on me? That’s the only thing I can come up with at this juncture. LOL Be sure to look at the TIME and DATES of the responses to gain a better idea on how they unfolded and when I STRUCK BACK. Now all of a sudden everyone is “shocked” at my “VENEMOUS ATTACK”.

I have put up with more than my fair share of their unwarranted BS  on that site and I have had enough !

They may want to try to avoid looking and acting like catty bitches on a blog that is supposed to be teaching them “GAME”. Certainly not a good look for anyone stumbling across that blog to see that half the men there are acting like bitches on a school yard instead of men. Not sure how most of them are going to make out with that whole GAME/ALPHA cred thing acting like school girls.

 

In the meantime, as a human being I understand I am always a work in progress. And part of that for me is learning how to handle situations in which I feel pushed in a corner. Do I strike back or remain quiet and allow them to walk away feeling as though they can continue doing this to people without being scarred in the process. Part of me believes that sometimes giving people a taste of  their  own medicine is definitely the way to teach them a lesson. Other part of me says its not worth it. So that is what I struggle with. Trying to figure out if its RIGHT for a person to defend themselves against unwarranted attacks, or if its just best to ignore them and let them get away with the vicious lies and attacks without consequence.

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  1. Zorro
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 09:57:52

    You are now officially instructed to stay the F away from Chateau Heartiste.

    You are just asking for what you get, and you do not have the right to pretend you are a victim of the abuse you receive.

    If I spent 3 minutes on Ms. Magazine blog or some girly chick site, I would get no less abuse, and it would be my own damned fault.

    Now stop it, Missy!

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  2. Liza207
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:08:44

    Neecy, You were being baited and you walked right into their lair but they did not have the right to insult you in the manner they did. But we talked many times about you not mingling with the men there. As the saying goes “If you play with fire you will get burned”.

    I, for one, don’t get the appeal of mingling with those men . I don’t believe in socializing with losers online or offline.

    I could just shake you for not listening to me and others! I just hope this is the end for you.

    I also want you to look deeply to see why you were so drawn to them.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:28:33

      Liza I understand your frustration with me. its not so much the mingling with the men there, its the fact that I am at this point in my life focused on what the dynamics are between men and women out in the dating arena and that site has honeslty given me a lot of key insight on A LOT of things I was really unaware of when it came to women and men.

      Its CERTAINLY not the guys there that intrigue me, its the whole point of the dynamics in the dating arena from the whole game aspect that intrigues me.

      Not to mention, by visiting H’s blog it has given me momentum to start myown blog skyrocketing off the things and concepts I’ve lesarned there. IOW’s this blog would not exist right now if I had not interacting on his blog. I also would not have had the fortune of meeting and interacting with some of the wonderful guys who participate and post on this blog THAT CAME from that very site.

      So no I don’t see it as all negative my experience on that site. On top of that, things have been slowly getting better there in terms of how they respond to me. for the last couple months or so, things have been pretty low key and cool. They’ve pretty much backed off and either learned to deal with me or simply ignore me.

      But the incident that happened the ther day was moreso b/c one of the SUPPOSED AMOGS there (ROLLO) used his power to attack me on HEARTSISTE’S BLOG (and not his own b/c he doesn’t get the amount of traffic on his blog that Heartiste does so he needed to make sure he made his mssage clear he was attacking me in front of a bunch of people ) b/c he was pissed off b/c I called him out on the mixed messages he sent in one of his posts ON HIS BLOG. THAT is what created the drama – HIM. If you go to his blog, you will see his response to me was not even viscious. he waited to do it on HEARTISTES blog to make a point in front of a bunch of other men. his little ego got bruised and he used an opportunity to weild his AMOG status on H’s blog to attack me and get his little puppy dog followers to do the same.

      But, you are right. I’ve got enough from the site that there is not much more I can learn or gather there so its time to move on.

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  3. Neecy
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:11:58

    I don’t agree Zorro. no one has the right to abuse anyone – EVER. If the guys there don’t want women participating, then they need to inform the blog host. They had no issues requesting he moderate all comments. So now, Heartiste moderates all comments and has chosen to post my comments which says to me that he doesn’t mind me being there.

    I don’t even go on there trolling! I agree and often am on the side of the guys there. Also, the reason I still posted there b/c honestly for the last month or so, they’ve been pretty low key and have backed off. I haven’t had any real problems or so with the guys there for quite awhile and I felt that finally they just either accepted me or just ignore me if they are not interested in what i have to say.

    just last week they were singing my praises in the day game post. its like dr. jeckyll and mister hyde there. So yes, i still posted there b/c things got better. That incident that happened the other day was the first in a long time of them acting like complete idiots.

    And ROLLO the supposed “AMOG” started it! he is such a MAGGOT beyond words. his credibility as a man is shot. And to think i had the utmost respect for him. He’s a loser who used his Supposed “alpha” cred to create drama and bullying of me b/c he was pissed off that I challenged one if his posts in which I felt he was sending mixed messages. How pathetic.

    At any rate, I think things are definitely in order for me to avoid that site.

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  4. Liza207
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:18:12

    “I felt that finally they just either accepted me or just ignore me if they are not interested in what i have to say”

    Neecy, please don’t tell me that you were seeking acceptance and that’s why you couldn’t stay away from them.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:31:26

      NO.

      I’m saying that the drama ceased b/c they either finally just accepted I was going be there participating on the blog. Therefore as a result choosing to either ignore me or interact with me in a respectable manner. Which they have been doing the last couple of months.

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  5. Zorro
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:22:45

    They are a pack of fucking assholes. If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. And if you want me to look at you and treat you like a mature, responsible, aware adult, then you have to stop walking into public restrooms to stare into unflushed toilets and point your finger and say, “DISGUSTING!”

    Chateau Heartiste draws a certain kind of customer, and you are mingling with them.

    What. Do. You. Expect???!!!

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:33:45

      You know i cannot argue with anything you or Liza is saying.

      But the question is – I met YOU, MARK, MARELLUS, MATT, ANDREW, MK, MW, MS, N/A, FP, sweet lil EMMA all there! So no, not all the guys there are assholes. If I had never posted there I would not know any of you at all.

      NOT TO MENTION I reconnected wth Liza over there. We had lost contact for months!

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  6. Neecy
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:43:21

    I just realized there’s a lot of MARKS on here. LOL

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    • MK
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 13:14:02

      Stick to the Mark’s might be the lesson here. But seriously if you decide to post there just expect a certain ratio of asshole to normal person replies and react accordingly and don’t fall for the bait and escalate (got a little Don King in me today). I guess that was a long way of saying I agree with Zorro.

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      • Firepower
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 13:24:51

        cant imagine the neester
        ever having a little
        don king in her

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      • Neecy
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:29:48

        hehe @ Don King comment.

        You, Liza and Zorro are right. Funny thing is I have really backed off on commenting there. i rarely even post anymore. I just don’t think I will bother with posting anymore. Just too much drama all the time. Its unfortunate though b/c there are times when i find a topic interesting and want to comment. But i’m not for the drama and craziness that seems to follow me there. LOL

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  7. Maya
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:47:01

    Neecy,

    Yeah, Heartiste’s blog is full of women-hating losers. I feel sorry for them and for women they interact with. However, don’t take their insults too serious. I think they are so emotional because they were hurt in the past or sometimes because they really are full of hatred for no reason. But that’s their problem. I don’t mind at all if they insult me – it’s just the internet, not real life! (although some of them are terribly disgusting – like those who advocate prostitution, get hysterical about FRAs and claim at the same time that raping a woman is almost if not entirely impossible or that women want to be raped etc. – you know I got very angry and hurt when reading these). I got blocked once for a few days and my posts are frequently deleted or changed and I’m being accused of trolling all the time. I don’t mind. I like the blog and I’ll keep posting there 😛 Like you, I also found this blog in June and have learned many things since then. Stay at Heartiste and just ignore the haters. They have nothing useful to contribute and all they do is drawing attention to their own psychological issues.

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    • Matt
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 12:19:30

      You’re entirely correct, except for one point.

      “…get hysterical about FRAs …”
      False Rape Accusations are something that men SHOULD be hysterically angry about. It’s a lie that will actually destroy a man’s life. Misguided anger and hatred is reprehensible, but an FRA is one of the most evil and vile things a woman can do to a man. He has no protection, is assumed to be guilty, can’t confront his accuser and will likely suffer for it for the rest of his life.

      That being said, most of the men on that blog are sad, pathetic people. Neecy, Maya, et. all, always remember that these are men who are resorting to trickery to achieve their goals. That point alone should tell you the caliber of people you’re likely to encounter there.

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      • MK
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 13:19:57

        I disagree with this completely where is your evidence that most of the men on that blog are sad and pathetic. Very broad strokes to paint there I am guessing it is a good cross section of society and overall I bet mid to high achievers vs. the standard population.
        Think about it the reader’s at heartiste are trying to figure out the dynamics of social interaction lazy people don’t care and just watch tv..(ok some just want to get laid but see how easy it is to make broad generalizations)

        I’d say heariste is “right” about most things except the political banter. What’s incorrect about:
        Women initiating 2/3 of the divorces (often for bogus reasons)
        Women falling for assholes and wondering why they get treated bad
        Guys getting put into friend zone if they act overly beta
        Lack of men rights around child and divorce laws

        I could go on so I’d say you qualify for White Knight of this post since Zorro’s advice was more spot on than your unrealistic assessment.

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        • Matt
          Sep 28, 2011 @ 19:53:25

          “I could go on so I’d say you qualify for White Knight of this post since Zorro’s advice was more spot on than your unrealistic assessment.”

          MK, I have to thank you. I haven’t had a laugh like the one you just provided in a very long time. I also find it amusing that you’re trying to give me grief over making broad generalizations, yet are so quick to fling “White Knight” at me because I disapprove of Game.

          Also, I’m curious how:
          “They are a pack of fucking assholes. If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. … ” differs from:
          “… always remember that these are men who are resorting to trickery to achieve their goals. That point alone should tell you the caliber of people you’re likely to encounter there.”
          They read to me as two different ways of saying the same thing.

          If you define a White Knight as a person that protects or assists women simply because they are women (which requires a large streak of willful ignorance), then I’m about as far from that as you can get. I never disagreed with any of:
          “I’d say heariste is “right” about most things except the political banter. What’s incorrect about:
          Women initiating 2/3 of the divorces (often for bogus reasons)
          Women falling for assholes and wondering why they get treated bad
          Guys getting put into friend zone if they act overly beta
          Lack of men rights around child and divorce laws”
          I agree with every single point on that list. I’ve had points 2 and 3 done to me. It’s why I’m very, very careful about which women I get involved with. If I can not find a good woman to live my life with (and I am looking for one), then I will go my own way. I think this is the best thing that anybody, man or woman, can do right now.

          The “dynamics of social interaction” is possibly one of the most gentle euphemisms I’ve ever seen for Game. Those dynamics, the ACTUAL dynamics, are learned by doing social activities simply to be sociable, or by taking a Psych class. They aren’t learned by studying a methodology that exists solely to get women into bed.

          As I’ve stated before, I find Game to be psychological manipulation of a woman in order to get her to have sex with the man practicing it. It’s trickery. It’s also the exact same thing that “nice guys” do. Both types of man, the “nice guy” and the “game guy”, use a set of behaviours that they have to train in order to try to get a desired result. The only reason that “Nice Guys” get shit on is because they don’t get laid. If the “Game Guys” track record was lower than it is, my guess is people would judge them just as harshly.

          There is nothing in that post that is White Knighting anyone. “Game Guys” deserve just as much shit as “Nice Guys” because they are exactly the same thing. They’d be better off forgetting that whole scene and improving themselves as men. They’d have better luck with the ladies if they did. Even Roissy, in his “Sixteen Commandments of Poon”, says this. Go read commandment numbers three, twelve and to a lesser extent eleven, thirteen and fifteen.

          That’s why I talk about the caliber of the men there. The women (generally) seem to go to Game sites to learn. Many of the men treat it like it’s some kind of altar to be worshiped at. Anybody that devotes a lot of time to learning how to manipulate others deserves contempt.

          Lastly, I don’t protect women because they are women. I know exactly what kind of depravity women are capable of. I’ve even been on the receiving end of some of it. It’s exactly the same, if not slightly worse, than the depravity that men are capable of. I protect women because they are PEOPLE with the same failings that men have. They don’t deserve pain and anguish in their lives anymore than I do. I do the same for them that I do for men. Life is hard enough without my making it more difficult by not lending a hand. This is not being a White Knight, it’s being human.

          You are free to believe me to be a White Knight. I’ve got nothing to prove to Internet folk.

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          • zorro
            Sep 28, 2011 @ 20:16:54

            I am sure most people would agree that there is a lot of manipulative falsity involved in the PUA/Game community, but if you have read The Mystery Method you will see that, principally, there are stages to romantic involvement, and within each phase of courtship the male is best advised to not engage in behaviors belonging in a different phase. For example, if a man engages in comfort-building behaviors while he is still in the initial stages of courtship, he will appear presumptuous and possibly arrogant. Courtship is the same as any relationship between people. When I worked in NYC I would commonly ask my boss to join me for lunch “at that Irish pub down 77th Street where a couple of Catholic boys can have some decent Sheperds pie and a Guinness.” That’s not something I would have said to him during my first week on the job.

            The points you made are all true. My only quibble is that there is some very good advice to be had as long as one does not fixate on the “low rent” aspects of conning a woman out of her panties.

            And your view of heartiste’s commenters is just what I said.

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          • Neecy
            Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:52:43

            Matt i honestly do not believe you were White knighting at all. What makes me sad about this whole White knighting thing is that its either Black or White. Its Either “be a man that sits back and watches a woman suffer b/c you want to prove you are not a Beta” OR “do any and everything for a woman no matter what. Stick up for any kind of woman no matter what”. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. There is an aspect where its okay to be HUMAN as you said. A human being assess situations and not always the people and determines based on that situation if help, advice, empathy, is warranted.

            Game community so puts down White knighting that it almost brainwashes men to believe that they should not be human anymore and care about others – especially if they are women. it almost sends this idea of so much HATE towards women that no man should defend them or offer advice or help when needed or warranted.

            I feel sorry for the men who go there and become so cynical and develop so much animosity towards women that they start feeling that no woman is deserving of help, assistance, advice, generosity. Men like this will never be around or with good women of quality or depth, b/c these kinds of women will sniff them a mile away and be sure to stay away. They will be stuck in the vicious cycle of dealing with low caliber shallow women with no substance who represent the kinds of women who should not be “WHITE KNIGHTED”. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

            The problem is not “white knighting”. The problem is men have spent so many years & decades pedestaling the *WRONG* WOMEN. THAT is the root and bottom line here. Feminine quality women will always love appreciate and reward the men who are charming and who still have masculinity left in them.

            Men do not “White knight” women b/c they are trying to prove something. Often times its in a man’s nature to want to rescue b/c a masculine man wants to feel powerful and rescuing a person in need in any situation is something that is fulfilling to a truly masculine man.

            As you said simply coming to the rescue and defense of women for no reason at all is a problem b/c some women are simply not deserving of being rescued and DON’T WANT TO BE.

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          • MK
            Sep 29, 2011 @ 04:14:46

            Kind of funny I am arguing with you since I was not one of the ones involved but since I’ve started down this point why change direction now.

            If you accept the definition that white knighting = doing something for a woman you wouldn’t do for a man to try to win their appreciation, I will offer up this question.
            If I went to a known hardcore feminist site and actively disputed a theory proposed about men and got attacked with hate would you make the same comments and then rationalize that most of the posters there were a lower form of life? If yes, I agree with your assessment.

            Anyway I believe a man should try to master all areas of his life ie Self Control, Finances, Family Relationships, Sex Life, Career, Education and seek to be a modern day Renaissance Man. I write about all these topics on my site but I do admit that game theory fascinates me and I like to cross apply it to other areas that require mastery.

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          • Maya
            Sep 30, 2011 @ 10:23:01

            “As I’ve stated before, I find Game to be psychological manipulation of a woman in order to get her to have sex with the man practicing it. It’s trickery.”

            I believe that Game is a blessing for women. If you don’t explicitly lie than there’s nothing wrong if you use it. You know that we like “assholes” much more than boring men with no self-respect.

            Women who are the victims of PUAs are themselves responsible for that, 100%. (Sadly, PUAs never target normal women but always “easy lays” who are probably emotionally disturbed/drunk/lonely and they can’t behave responsibly. They would need protection and friendship much more than another heartbreak IMO.)

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            • Maya
              Sep 30, 2011 @ 10:23:47

              This was reply to you, Matt.

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            • Neecy
              Sep 30, 2011 @ 10:36:36

              I believe that Game is a blessing for women. If you don’t explicitly lie than there’s nothing wrong if you use it. You know that we like “assholes” much more than boring men with no self-respect.

              Sorry maya but I have to interject here. No not all women like ASSHOLES and jerks. This message needs to stop already. Just b/c a man is not an asshole or jerk doesn’t mean he is boring with no self respect. Its not a matter of one or the other. men are human beings with a variety fo traits and charcteristics just like women. There are not just *TWO* kinds of men in the world for women to choose from.

              Why people ONLY focus on these two extremes is beyond me. FYI, there are men who fit in the middle. They are neither assholes or jerks nor are they boring “betas. THIS is what you need to understand. If you like assholes. Fine., But do not assume that there are only two kinds of men in this world -an asshole or a boring beta. This is why you have to get out and exapnd your horizons fairly quickly my dear. If you believe these are the only kinds of men who exist, then you are in for a not so happy ride.

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              • Maya
                Sep 30, 2011 @ 10:58:35

                Sorry, I wasn’t clear enough – seems that I often just write what’s on my mind without thinking how others will interpret it … By “asshole” I mean someone who has Game, who’s self-confident and who’s not afraid of women. I used asshole as something positive here not as something to describe a real jerk.
                I agree with everything you wrote in your reply to my comment.

                One question: You agree that men with Game are more attractive than men with Anti-Game?

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                • Neecy
                  Sep 30, 2011 @ 12:35:45

                  Hey Maya,

                  I don’t look at it in terms of Game per se, although there are some techniques in “game” that i think work to help more reserved shy men overcome some of their social awkwardness with women. Game for the most part as i understand it is really about doing and saying things simply to get a woman in bed. Nothing more and nothing less.

                  Simply put, there are certain characteristics in men that women will find more appealing than others. A man who feels good about himself and knows what he wants pretty much has won most of the battle. That is why I say men only need to take the whole game thing with a grain of salt and focus more on improving HIMSELF. B/C a man that has done that will not need to use game to get women. He will automatically have what it takes to attract women without having to do all the trick pony entertainment to get a woman. Any man who has worked on his social flaws will make out better with women over the long term. Women *are* across the board attracted to men who exhibit certain character traits like: a man’s ability to be charming, confident, strong, solid and a comfort with social interaction. A man that can look into the eyes of a woman and hold that without feeling uneasy etc.

                  Anti game? I guess that would be a man who does not work on his social ineptness, appearance, style, confidence. At least that is what anti game is to me and I am sure other women would not be attracted to that kind of guy either. IOW’s an omega guy would be anti game.

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      • Maya
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 13:43:47

        Matt,

        I agree with you, FRAs are terrible and destroy an innocent man’s life but rape is terrible as well. Men on C.H. are only whining all the time about how disgusting and evil women are while AT THE SAME time they have ABSOLUTELY NO sympathy for women and wish us all the worst (pump and dump at best). Take a look at this thread at Heartiste and you’ll see what I mean – people claiming that rape is not a serious crime, that many girls are fabricating stories about being raped, some almost believe that rape doesn’t exist or that women want to be raped anyway. Sorry, this IS disgusting. And there are many many more women suffering their whole lives because of the consequences of being raped than there are men who were falsely accused of rape. Not many women are disturbed enough to be able to falsely accuse somebody of rape. Sadly, most women who were actually raped find it very difficult to talk about this with anyone and many never report it to the police.

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        • MK
          Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:20:13

          Agree rape is a terrible crime and have two follow-up questions for you:

          1. How do you know “Not many women are disturbed enough to be able to falsely accuse somebody of rape.” How often does it happen?

          2. Older women who statutory rape younger men should be held to the same penalty as the inverse case. Agree?

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          • Maya
            Sep 29, 2011 @ 02:05:29

            MK,

            “1. How do you know “Not many women are disturbed enough to be able to falsely accuse somebody of rape.” How often does it happen?”

            I know it because most people are not as crazy as to be able to destroy someone’s life. But I believe there are psychos who can – you’ve noticed that men on C.H. advocate sex with “easy lays” … Hope you agree with me that the women who are the easiest lays are usually not quite normal? I believe that men who sleep with psychos should accept the risks that come with this.

            “2. Older women who statutory rape younger men should be held to the same penalty as the inverse case. Agree?”
            Yes, 100%. Child abuse is disgusting.

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            • zorro
              Sep 29, 2011 @ 02:48:14

              Crazy has nothing to do with it.

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              • Maya
                Sep 29, 2011 @ 03:46:24

                OK, Zorro, maybe I should use another word … But I hope you agree that these women are not normal.

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                • Zorro
                  Sep 29, 2011 @ 05:18:37

                  Bad news cupcake. These women are entirely normal.

                  They’re just not good.

                  I just got off a 12-hour night shift and I’m the walking dead. When I get up I’ll elaborate. But you won’t like what I have to say.

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                  • Maya
                    Sep 29, 2011 @ 05:52:32

                    We probably agree, actually … I just can’t find the right expression.

                    btw. Why do you have 12-hour night shifts? What’s your job?

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                    • Zorro
                      Sep 29, 2011 @ 06:04:29

                      I work in the Essex Junction, Vermont, “Fab” for IBM to manufacture silicon wafers. These are where your processors for cell phones, PCs, TVs, etc., come from. 7pm to 7am.

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              • Neecy
                Sep 29, 2011 @ 09:24:40

                I agree Zorro. The only difference IMO between a woman who sleeps around and one who doesn’t is that the woman that doesn’t sleep around practices more restraint than the former. Girls who are “easy lays” tend to be much more needy for male affection and attention and they feel the easiest and quickest most successful way to get it is to sleep with a man fairly soon.

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      • Neecy
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 17:52:33

        Matt you are so right!

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    • Firepower
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 13:03:36

      IF you put up a skinny picture of yourself, they’ll leave you alone

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      • Maya
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 13:49:21

        Heh, no. I already left A LOT of personal information there and I’d rather remain anonymous. I can’t really understand how people are putting their photographs on the internet. I definitely can’t *afford* that.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:36:35

      Hey Missy!

      You are soooo right. its just the internet and at the end of the day their BS doesn’t matter. But what moreso bugs me is the uncalled for bullying- not the insults. I’m confident in myself that I am not the least bit bothered by internet scumbags insulting me. if you notice most of the time I laugh or ignore their insults.
      The moment I stepped foot on that site they were insulting and I brushed it off and laughed it off.

      BUT what does get under my skin and piss me off is the outright ganging up and bullying. Maybe b/c throughout my life I have constantly been ganged up on by haters i take it a bit more personally than the next person. i left another female blog for the same thing. I HATE bullying and ganging up on people.

      I simply scroll past and ignore the topics where I feel they are being unreasonable about women. but you do have to remember Maya, it is their space and they are going to be saying things about women that we are not going to like and agree with. that is the part about being there that women need to understand.

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  8. Maya
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:48:17

    “I feel sorry for them and for women they interact with.”

    … in real life.

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  9. Maya
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 10:56:01

    I went and read this thread about pharma reps. Agree with you that it’s clear why these men are unsuccessful with women – no one is attracted to people who have nothing except their hatred.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:38:35

      EXACTLY. They only really made themselves look bad as “men” the way they overreacted and responded to me. One guy actually called them out on it and i was glad he did.

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  10. Zorro
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 11:05:19

    Neecy, are you a pharma rep? I used to be a clinical research coordinator (phase 3 & 4 studies) at Harvard Medical School (Mass Eye & Ear Infirmary). Dept. of Ophthalmology.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:43:13

      Yes Zorro. How did you enjoy being a reseacrh coordinator? Also, what was the longest study that you did?

      Honestly I HAAAATE going over the clinical data in journals info b/c its just too many numbers, graphs and stuff. The ratios, the “statistically significant” explanations etc. I have never been a numbers/math person so i find myself having to really really focus and breakdown and study the clinicals. We can’t highlight the key points in the clinicals when talkng to the doctor, so we have to literally memorize clinicals for all of the drugs we promote which is daunting.

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      • zorro
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:51:48

        Longest study was an eyedrop study by Alcon that lasted nearly three years.

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        • Neecy
          Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:30:51

          Oh wow. So was that was like a full time job or did you work on other studies simultaneously? I hear Ophthamology sales is wonderful – i once ran into a rep who did it and she loved it.

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          • zorro
            Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:45:00

            Biggest load I had was running three trials simultaneously. I had inclusion/exclusion cards falling out of my pockets.

            Long time ago. Now I am an IBM silicon wafer nerd.

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            • Neecy
              Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:57:32

              LOL What percentage of error do you think is involved? Were you running placebo, random double blind studies for all of them?

              Can’ t imagine the stress of making sure there were no errors.

              Silicon wafer?

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              • zorro
                Sep 28, 2011 @ 22:09:59

                Double-mask, double-blind w/placebo or standard therapy. Actually, I don’t think we ever had placebo. Our patients were being treated for anterior chamber ocular inflammation, so placebo would be rather dangerous.

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  11. Marellus
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 15:23:24

    Neecy.

    It started with Rollo. So end it with him. Link his post on mixed signals. Discuss it here on this blog. Take it apart. And inform him of this, and invite him to come here and comment. Maybe he’ll come, and then he’ll be in your backyard …

    I’m sure there’s a moose waiting for him. Me, I’ll just get my rock paintings ready … 🙂

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    • Marellus
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 15:40:15

      Oh before I forget, the next time someone named “Anonymous” disses you, use this retort on him :

      … and you my dear sir, are one of the few personalities that had to exit the Matrix via the Recycle Bin … hence your name …

      I never had the opportunity to use this on Heartiste. I have been moderated out of existence. My posts get printed when the thread has gone cold.

      I think this happened because I called Roissy out on his Anti-Mexican sentiments in one of his posts. I told him I’d rather have Christian Mexicans in my country, than the gun-toting drug running Islamic Nigerians that we have in SA …

      Quite a few commenters backed me up on this … I think Roissy was very upset about that …

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      • Neecy
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:50:21

        Marellus love the anon retort!! Clever 😉

        I didn’t know he was moderating people out of existence. I’m not sure what is behind his moderation but if he gets really mad at someone he will cut them off from positing. Are you sure though he was upset with you? I don’t even remember a post or thread where I seen you make a lot of posts there anyway.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:46:42

      The only thing i care to invite Rollo to do at this juncture is to kiss my booty!

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      • zorro
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:50:11

        I thought you didn’t like him.

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        • Neecy
          Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:54:20

          hahaa!! There’s my Zorro back in action 😉 And “don’t like him” is an understatement.

          *correcting original comment*

          The only thing I care to invite Rollo to do at this juncture is to kiss my father’s dogs booty after he has passed gas! (man does that dog have some stinlky gas WHEW!)

          There!

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    • Maya
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 05:57:11

      LOL, me neither 😛 I could never go to test my IQ because I don’t want to feel stupid afterwards 😛 Also, I believe that being a good person is more important than being smart 🙂 (Unless you’re a scientist)

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      • Neecy
        Sep 29, 2011 @ 08:28:25

        I hear ya Maya. I think as long a i am smart enough to get through life comfortably without doing anything too too stupid, i’m good. LOL

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  12. Mark Slater
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 16:35:15

    “They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause. For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer. And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.”
    — Psalm 109

    I’m very sorry this hurt you as badly as it did, Miss Neecy. As I understand it, you were having an intelligent correspondence with A.B. Dada (a poster I have a great deal of respect for) when these trolls interjected. My thoughts?.. To heck with ’em. Life’s to short to get torn apart on the inside by such people.

    I haven’t even considered whether Black women get it worse. Here’s a YouTube video. Take a look at what the commenters posted about THIS thoughtful, intelligent black girl.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 17:12:48

      mark,

      That was a beautiful scripture and thank you for posting it 🙂

      You are right, AB and i were having a discussion. And even part of his post I didn’t agree with (that all female pharma reps sleep with docs etc) but i didn’t take it to heart b/c frankly if people want to believe that, then they are free to believe what they want. but at least he was respectful enough to do it in a manner that was not attacking me personally and although i didn’t agree with him, we were still as you saw, able to have a decent conversation on another aspect of the post.

      Rollo started the mess out of nowhere. *HE* threw out the bait for the other idiots to come and finish his job of attacking me. i don’t feel heartiste did, i felt heartiste was being his usual sarcastic self by making the pharma rep comment and that is why I jokingly responded back sarcastically.

      the other guy making a comment about my looks- BLAH. You saw i kind of jokingly dissed him back but made a funny little “toodles!” remark at the end to let him know i wasn’t upset. I laugh those off and keep moving. Not everyone finds a person attractive. *shrugs*

      the thing that really bugged me about that whole incident was the unnecessary bullying. i have been bullied and ganged up on ALL OF MY LIFE (usually by women) and therefore I tend to take it a lot more personally than a person who may not have gone through that in their lives.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 17:14:14

      mark the video is not showing up for me to click. I’m just seeing a black screen with nothing.

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      • Mark Slater
        Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:22:34

        I’m not an expert on how to embed video. Sorry about that…

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        • Neecy
          Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:28:27

          I’ll see if it comes up on my iphone. if not can you post the link so i can go to the site. I really want to see it 🙂

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        • Neecy
          Sep 29, 2011 @ 08:37:33

          Ok i was finally able to see it on my iphone. Don’t know what is wrong with my computer –

          anyway I wasn’t able to see the comments section for some reason it didn’t take me to the youtube page this originated.

          Can’t say I am shocked to see a Black woman against gay marriage (Black women tend to be very religious), but it is somewhat shocking to see Black women republicans. I’m more on the conservative side of the coin these days , but I don’t really care one way or another if gay people get married at all. *shrugs* I can’t however take away from the Christians who want to maintain marriage as a union between man and woman b/c they too have a right to want to protect their religious standards.

          I’m sure we will however, be seeing more and more Black women conservatives b/c typically in the Black culture Black women tend to be the more conservative of the genders. Black males typically are much more liberal minded than Black women.

          More progressive Black women who are unconnected to the Black community and its craziness are developing more conservative views and political views b/c we have seen how liberalism has enabled and assisted in a lot of the destructive habits of the Black community and Black people in general.

          Also as more and more Black women date and marry interracially, you will find they will typically (as most women do) pick up their husbands political views – if their husbands are conservative then she will also typically join that party’s views as well).

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  13. MK
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 17:25:52

    One side note to bullying a lot of schools are addressing it at a very young age and aggressively. My kids go to one of the best schools around and every Wednesday they have anti bullying education and it is considered a serious offense that can lead to getting expelled.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 17:36:20

      MK,

      I’m so glad there are schools like your sons that pro activley address this issue. Its *REALLY* bad. bullying and even CYBERBULLYING (b/c so many kids now have access to internet social sites where they continue their stalking and harrassing of other students) really needs to be at the top of EVERY schools priority list to address and pro activley teach and reprimand students about bullying.

      Its gotten so bad.

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  14. Neecy
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 18:04:44

    Regarding the rape topics. i understand both sides. On the side of the women – there are a lot of women who are sexually assaulted and do not report it out of fear of being out casted, maligned and called unsavory names. basically their accusations are used in some ways to disregard their credibility as having been raped.

    Then you have the women who were really raped, who are dragged through the mud and I cannot imagine how that must feel after being sexually assaulted only to have people run you through the mud and call you a liar or a slut who asked for it.

    For the fellas side. FRA’s are IMO one of the most despicable things ANYONE could ever do. What men do not realize is FRA’s also hurt women as well as men b/c the credibility of women who are really raped becomes shot due to women who make false claims about rape. Women who make FRA’s are screwing the man in question and women as a WHOLE. With each FRA a woman who reports rape, will often be given the side eye like she is lying. As Maya said its unfortunate b/c women who are raped experience severe emotional issues for most of their life b/c of it. Especially the ones who do not report it and seek counseling or help to deal with the emotional toll, guilt etc., that comes with being sexually assaulted.

    The fact is it takes a very low caliber woman to do such a thing (make a FRA). That is why when the guys on there are bragging about sleeping around with crazy chicks who have issues “b/c they are quick easy and good lays” they do not realize how they are setting themselves up to be targeted. This is another reason why men should have standards on who they sleep with. Simply “banging hotties” can be dangerous b/c a lot fo women out there have emotional issues and as a result can be vicious without conscious.

    I don’t find anything appealing about a man who simply targets women with issues b.c they are good lays. IMO he is asking for trouble messing around with women like that, b/c those are most likely the kinds of women who will make such claims without conscious. No upstanding woman with any kind of values or morals would ever use something as a FRA as a weapon against an innocent man. B/C we understand the consequences that other women who are raped suffer as well as the consequences faced by the innocent man and how his life will and can be ruined.

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  15. Emma the Emo
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 19:16:39

    I read the comments there. It seems you made a joking comment and guys got catty. It’s a typical reaction though. Unserious comments like that are better ignored, they are often not really about you anyway, it’s about them (I made a post on this on my blog, see if you can agree with anything 🙂 ). Don’t let people there affect you with their words. I think you even provided a quote for this – something like “If bad things are said about you, either laugh (if it’s false) or correct yourself (if they are right)”.

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    • Neecy
      Sep 28, 2011 @ 21:26:20

      Emma I commented on your blog post. And uhm I have a problem with something. HOW DARE you invite me to read a blog post that is short, concise and to the point! UGH *some people I swear*

      Your next post better mirror all of mine and be *as* long or *longer than* War and Peace !

      thank you and good night!

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    • Firepower
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 09:31:22

      emma the emo

      I made a post on this on my blog, see if you can agree with anything

      cookie, its’ impossible to post on your blog bc you have the settings wrong

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  16. Zorro
    Sep 29, 2011 @ 11:47:38

    @Maya:

    This could develop into a very long lecture, so I am going to boil it down to very basic elements (so I don’t kidnap Neecy’s blog). And I am linking a web page that has one of the classic all-time false rape cases in American history. The question was “Are women who file false rape accusations (FRAs) crazy, or something else?” and my position is usually something else.

    I have no statistics to back this up, but I would bet that 99% of all FRAs come from two motivations: revenge or the protection of social status. If a man mistreats a woman who has strong feelings for him either severely or over a period of time, she may discard whatever affection she once had and decide to destroy his life. Anger is the key. If a man cheats on his wife, she might exact revenge by accusing him of rape. Both men and women react similarly to anger, but it is the female who is far more capable of clinging to that emotional charge and acting on it. “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” is something very real. So the desire to inflict grievous revenge on a former lover can account for many FRAs, but I suspect the biggest cause of false rape is the protection of social status. Case in point…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Dotson

    So, Maya, maybe you and I split hairs on what “crazy” is. I know some women have histrionic personality disorder and numerous other personality problems that push them into bad behavior. But I strongly believe that women, far too many women, suffer from an over-indulgence of their right to “girlhood” or “the woman’s right to blah blah blah” and far too little civics and having personal responsibility and accountability drilled into them. For a woman to falsely accuse a man of rape is so heinous, if I saw a group of men beating the living shit out of a woman who did that to a man, I’d crack open a beer and watch. Women who do that are vermin. Absolutely no different than an actual rapist.

    Enough of this. More pineapple!

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    • Neecy
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 15:26:56

      Hmmm. I don’t know Zorro. Like I said a few posts up about rape and FRA’s. It takes a certain caliber of woman to do this b/c both men and women are affected by FRA’s. Women who are really raped will never be believed and the man in quesitons life is ruined. But FRA’s affect women as a WHOLE and men individually.

      The kinds of women who would do this are low caliber women with emotional issues. That is why men need to be a lot more discerning about who they are messing around with. MANY emotionally unstable, crazy chicks with issues (that so many men bragg about being good and easy lays) are the ones who are more likely to make such vicious false claims without conscious.

      Normal women with any emotional stability would never do that.

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    • Maya
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 16:45:07

      Zorro,

      “… revenge or the protection of social status.”

      Revenge yes, protection of social status – no.
      NOT talking about being raped protects your social status.

      “Both men and women react similarly to anger, but it is the female who is far more capable of clinging to that emotional charge and acting on it.”

      Just the opposite. Women suppress anger much more often.

      “But I strongly believe that women, far too many women, suffer from an over-indulgence of their right to “girlhood” or “the woman’s right to blah blah blah” and far too little civics and having personal responsibility and accountability drilled into them.”

      LOLLLLzzz 😛 We should invite King A now to comment on this blog … heh.

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  17. Emma the Emo
    Sep 29, 2011 @ 13:57:55

    @Zorro,
    “Both men and women react similarly to anger, but it is the female who is far more capable of clinging to that emotional charge and acting on it.”
    Not sure if I agree. Men in that case just get violent and get their anger out quicker, women use other things, since they aren’t that strong physically. It’s not that women are so much more terrible than men, it’s just that society/state/police allows them to ruin a man’s life way too easily. A group of people placed in a position of power over another group of people will often abuse it.

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  18. Neecy
    Sep 29, 2011 @ 15:19:15

    *witchy laugh* I hope you little monsters like your new avatars!! LOL *mean blogstress, mean mean blogstress!! * *naughty face*

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    • n/a
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 17:46:53

      You get up to all kinds of mischief, don’t you?

      All you girls need to be watched, and closely. Firepower usually does a pretty good job of that, though. 😉

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      • Neecy
        Sep 29, 2011 @ 17:53:29

        Don’t get mad, but.. Firepowers monster is cuter than yours. But i am lovin’ the purple/green color combo you got going on there! And hot hair too! 😉

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      • Firepower
        Oct 03, 2011 @ 13:18:10

        N/a, i only succeed because i have experience minding my little nieces. when they have little tea parties and chatter on so cutely its hard to resist!

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        • Neecy
          Oct 03, 2011 @ 13:24:15

          Awwwww you babysit your nieces? You are such a good uncle Firepower i bet!! And now I just really wanna squeeze that cute lil avatar of yours. he is so adorbs!!

          You just got major Neecy points being a good uncle!! 😉

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  19. bob
    Sep 29, 2011 @ 19:50:31

    “IN ALL CASES I was viscously attacked”

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/viscous

    viscous:

    of a glutinous nature or consistency; sticky; thick; adhesive

    I would never viciously attack you. However, I think could get with viscously attacking you. 😉

    Sorry, I’m a word geek. I just can’t help myself.

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    • zorro
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 20:35:37

      “Sorry, I’m a word geek. I just can’t help myself.”

      It’s on!

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    • Neecy
      Sep 29, 2011 @ 21:02:05

      Lol bob and zorro! Between the two if u I’m going to be a word genius by the time you’re done with me 😀

      One things for sure here at Neecys Nest – you’ll find bad spelling, off grammar, and incorrect usage if words. Lmao

      If they had a prison for any of the above I’d be sitting under it 😦

      Keep me honest guys it’ll get better …. I hope lol

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  20. Neecy
    Sep 29, 2011 @ 22:44:44

    Oh and Bob, I think you have officially won the prize for scariest FUNNIEST freaking monster avatar. LMAO!

    😛

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  21. bob
    Sep 30, 2011 @ 20:58:53

    Neecy,

    Yeah when I first saw my new avatar, I thought I’d change it. But I kind of like it, even though I have no idea WTF it is.

    Also, don’t worry about your IQ – if you can get through those studies, it’s way up there, plus you have tons of what so many people lack: so-called Common Sense. Sadly it is actually very uncommon, as I’ve spent much of my life proving. 😦

    Zorro,

    I’m not sure if “It’s on!” is a challenge to me, or a warning to Neecy….. but if the former: I can’t match your IQ, but I always scored higher on my verbal tests than math, (unlike every other guy I ever discussed it with), and still managed to get a B.S.E.E.

    I’m a network jocky now, though, with a fair amount of perl scripting thrown in to try and understand where everything is and what it is doing.

    Sorry to hear about the 12 hour night shifts – that is brutal.

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    • zorro
      Sep 30, 2011 @ 21:25:59

      Here’s what’s on.

      I was an English major, spent years as a technical writer and editor, proofread all medical manuscripts at Harvard Medical School/Mass Eye & Ear Infirmary for the Dept of Immunology, and have an average Scrabble score of 482.

      So…you’re a word person, too?

      Together we can drive Neecy to the brink of madness!

      BUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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    • Neecy
      Oct 01, 2011 @ 07:22:09

      No Bob don’t chnage your avatar I love it!!! 🙂

      I guess the trade off is you either have a higher IQ and lack common sense, or a lower IQ with higher common sense. lol Which is best? Not sure anymore. LOL

      You can’t be lacking too much common sense if you work in Engineering that’s for sure!

      ZORRO,

      All i gotta say is, BRING IT!!!

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      • bob
        Oct 01, 2011 @ 11:09:54

        I guess the trade off is you either have a higher IQ and lack common sense, or a lower IQ with higher common sense.

        I don’t believe that it is necessarily a trade off, as I know several people with lots of both. There are plenty of examples in all the possibilities.

        I am improving, but there are still parts of my life that are nonsensical.

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  22. Student
    Oct 12, 2011 @ 18:43:46

    neecy, i remember writing awhile ago and one of the suggestions i made was to avoid roissy’s site. its a guys locker room and most of the guys on there are idiots. some are bitter woman haters who don’t understand women and choose to hate rather than empathize. but the bottom line is its a guys locker room. having been in many during my life i can say guys will act in a much more vulgar and uncivilized manner there than anywhere else. the internet is often just a hypertrophied version of a locker room (see for EG redneck political blogs)

    u don’t deserve the taunts and jeers but the way i see it, if i don’t want to get robbed, i don’t wear visible jewellery in DT urban cores when its dark and isolated. not about blaming the victim but minimizing risk. if internet taunts affect you so, then please avoid the virtual swamps full of annoying mosquitos.

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    • Neecy
      Oct 12, 2011 @ 18:52:33

      Hey Student!

      yeah i have learned my lesson. I think sometimes something really bad has to happen to someone before they wake the heck up and realize that certain places are not good for them to be or hang out.

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