TAMING THE BEAST!!!

Ok ladies. So I decided to write this post b/c this is a common theme amongst women who get “players” to settle down.

 

Recently Justin Timberlake married his long-time g/f Jessica Biel. They have been dating for about 5 years as my understanding would have it. Reports are saying and have been saying over the years that Jessica had been wanting to get married LONG ago but Justin wasn’t ready. They had some break ups along the way in which Justin was caught ..ahem.. with other women in various situations.

 

Not heeding the warnings of tabloids, photos of him caught in the act,  and everyone asking Jessica why she will not move on, Jessica kept taking him back and he obviously *FINALLY* put a ring on it and married her.

 

So now that they have married I am finding all of these articles saying that “Jessica finally was able to tame her playboy” and get him to settle down. Other articles come up with the million dollar question “How does a woman tame a bad boy/player into committing and walking down the isle”?

 

THE ANSWER?

 

YOU DON’T!

 

FOR THE 1,29747,938482764,92746364 TIME: Ladies you CANNOT change a man!

 

Men either change on their own account (despite you sticking with him from 18 b.c. to now) and make the move WHEN THEY ARE READY or they simply fall in line and give into their guilt and pressures of his g/f and outsiders to make his g/f who has been begging for marriage an “honest woman”,  or they NEVER make that move.

 

I am not calling either on Justin or Jessica since I do not really know why Justin finally decided to marry her. Maybe he was  finally READY  and felt there was nothing else out there for him and that he has found the best woman, or maybe he just felt that he had to do the right thing b/c she has stuck with him this long and he does love her.

 

Either way, the choice was HIS – not hers. And it is never a woman;s doing that makes a man commit to marriage.

 

This line of reasoning falls back on that dangerous idea that women can change men if they just stick it out despite the warning signs he is not ready. I am glad for Jessica that she finally got her wedding. BUT this does not happen a lot of times and 5 years is a long time to wait (if marriage is something you want) for a man to commit.

 

There is however, no problem if BOTH the woman and man have BOTH decided they want to put marriage on the back burner or maybe just not get married at all. In these instances both parties are on the same page and its usually never a problem.

 

Usually, however this isn’t the case and the female is usually sticking it out with a man she feels will *EVENTUALLY* marry her even though he clearly shows no signs of interest in doing so.

 

“IF I JUST LOOOOB HIM, HE’LL COME AROUND!”

 

I don’t know if its a nature thing, but women often have these ideas that with “support” “faithfulness”  “loyalty” “love” and a willingness to overlook the various transgressions committed by their b/f’s that he will eventually think to himself “man this is a ride or die chick who is sticking it out with me b/c she adores me and I am going to reward her by marrying her”.

 

That is not how it happens in many cases. What does happen though is, a man might finally be guilted enough into marrying a “ride or die” chick who is sticking it out with him even if her needs are not begin met, but that doesn’t mean his heart is *REALLY* in it or that he will be a changed man once the ink has dried on the marriage licenses and the preacher has declared them “man and wife”.

 

Another issues that women overlook in that latter scenario is that he over time loses some respect for her b/c he realizes that she has at some point become desperate. A desperate woman looks like a undesirable woman to a man.

 

Her credibility and desirability to him starts dwindling. Women who are deemed able to move on and find someone else in the case she is not getting what she wants from her man, are more desirable to men whether they admit this or not. Real men do like a bit of a challenge and they typically fall for the women who won’t put up with their nonsense and who will move on if she has given him an ultimatum.

 

When a woman keeps threatening to leave a man who she keeps begging for marriage and continues to stick around, she loses credibility and her self respect and HIS respect whether she realizes this or not.

 

 

WHEN A MAN WANTS MARRIAGE, REALLY WANTS MARRIAGE, HE DOESN’T WAIT

 

My philosophy has always been (because I am a highly well renowned scholar and all) hehe, has been that when a man is truly ready to settle down and/or marry HE WILL DO IT and he will do it in a reasonable time frame. Men do not need centuries to decide if they are ready to marry a particular woman. Also, if you really look around and observe men will usually initiate marriage within the first year or two (two years is actually long for a man to wait when he wants to marry and its usually way less than that unless he and the woman have an understanding that it has to be put on the back burner b/c of other things happening in their or his life).

 

THE STARTER GIRLFRIEND

 

How many times have we seen stories and heard women (ex girlfriends) crying their eyes out about how their b/f’s they were with since 1 b.c. who “wasn’t quite ready for marriage” suddenly jump the broom with some new chick only weeks and months after meeting and being with her and breaking up with the ex?

 

HAPPENS a lot! A lot of dudes will remain with a woman begging for marriage for YEARS and then once they break up and another woman comes along that he *WANTS* to spend the rest of his life with, he doesn’t waste any time doing that.

 

The best example I can think of,  is Khloe Kardashian and her hubby Lamar odom. Now I know  anything *KARDASHIAN* is never a good example to use for anything other than *ANNOYING* but its the same ole story of how a woman who pops out kids with a man thinking he will marry her doesn’t get that rock and wedding that she stuck around for and pushed kids out for all these years.

 

So you have Lamar who was with is BABY MOMMA for over 10 years. She had two kids with him and YET never received wifey status.

 

Here comes wide hipped flat butt funny faced Khloe Kardashian and they are married within MONTHS (less than 6). She gets this beautiful diamond rock, beautiful wedding, and enjoys the benefits of being the wife.  YES benefits. because when you are a wife, if anything happens to your husband, YOU are  the one who gets his resources and all other things in his name. Not the BABY MOMMA.

 

She didn’t have any kids with him. Didn’t stick with him for centuries. But he managed to somehow MARRY her in less than 6 months after having been with the mother of his children for over 10 years.

 

See ladies why it does not benefit you to be a hanger onner baby momma popping out babies left and right for a man who OBVIOUSLY doesn’t want to marry you! I don’t care if he wakes up every morning saying “he gone marry you berry berry swoon”.

 

The lesson women need to learn is – if a man wants to marry and settle down – you don’t:

 

  1. Need to convince yourself that it is YOU who is going to change him and make him suddenly want to do something he really has no desire to do UNTIL he is ready or until he finds a woman he actually WANTS to make that commitment to.

 

  1. Don’t need to have babies left and right as a way to force him to marry you or commit. Having kids these days is not a sure fire way to get a man to marry you. Its just a sure fire way to lock yourself out of the SMP with other men who would have married you had you not wasted your energy and lamaze breathing on a dude who clearly wasn’t going to marry you

 

  1. be the perfect woman and girlfriend somehow believing this will reel him in to settling down and committing. Unfortunately, many foolish men have fallen for this and have ended up in some bad situations with phony women. But for the sincere chicks who really  believe that being the perfect woman for a man will urge him into marrying you AGAINST his wishes, this usually will not happen and all you will do is end up frustrating yourself and future.

 

  1. Be with him for decades and centuries. Granted some men OUT OF GUILT who really don’t want to marry a particular woman, but realizes she has been “ride or die” chick for him will marry her out of feelings of OBLIGATION and GUILT. Not really out of a true burning desire to spend the rest of his life with her. And USUALLY these kinds of men end up cheating on their spouses in the marriage anyway b/c they made a move that wasn’t really apart of his agenda or desire.

 

  1. Make idle threats. If you have to *keep* threatening a man you are  going to “leave” if he doesn’t commit to you, then you have already lost the battle. This is not to say that you should not have CONVERSATIONS early in the relationship with him about what your future expectations are (within a reasonable time frame). If that time frame has passed and the woman is owning up to the reality that this man aint ready and will not be ready ANYTIME soon, then the woman needs to make a beeline to “tha DOE!” (that would be DOOR in proper English)

 

Those are just a few.

 

HEALTHY PRESSURE

 

Ladies men get very comfy. If they are straddling the fence on whether to marry and are unsure or not ready, they will stay with a good woman as long as possible without committing if he doesn’t have a bit of HEALTHY pressure.

 

If you are a woman that WANTS and expects marriage, then you have to in a reasonable way AND TIME (not on the first, second, third, fourth date) but once you see the relationship is moving in a serious direction  have this discussion with him. Let him know WHY you have this expectation of marriage and while you do not have to offer up a specific date on when he has to make that decision – if he is smart, he will know that at a certain point in the relationship (not 10 years later) he needs to shit or get off the pot.

 

He will know this once you start kinda having discussions about possibly “taking a break” or simply and literally deciding that this may not be working out and that you both should expand your horizons and move onto seeing other people.

 

if his heart wasn’t in it he will JUMP FOR JOY and slap you on the back and say “PHEW! I was wondering when you were going to say that because, GOLLY I have already been doing that!!! WOW. You’re such an amazing person!”

 

OR he will say “wait. I know I need to step up and YES I want to marry you but I have just had a lot of things on my plate and that wasn’t at the forefront but I DO love you and DO want to spend my life with you, so let’s work this out” and within a very short time (like days/weeks) you will have a ring.

 

Now some may say that I am contradicting myself because I am saying that it was the woman that had to initiate him finally making the move. In this instance you did not CHANGE HIM and you did not even need to mention MARRAIGE (or lack thereof) for why you are wanting to move on. If he is really concerned and wants to be wth you he will ask you. But what if he was actually was going to make that commitment – but you abruptly left?.

 

The reality as well is sometimes other things *ARE* going on in a man’s life and he has every intention on marrying you, but just hasn’t communicated that. If you just leave abruptly without even first understanding what is really going on, then you may have missed an opportunity. COmmunication is important in relationships.

 

Men are typically not very good at communicating these things, so women have to always have a heathy amount of pressure placed on him to keep remembering what is really important in that relationship.

 

NOW GO! GO MY LITTLE BABUSHKAS!

 

So, my little birdies. Fly out into the world and understand you positioning on marriage as a woman. Understand that you cannot change a man. Understand that you MUST have barriers and limitations to how long you will stick it out with a man who is not ultimately giving you what you need while you are providing for all of his needs. Understand that you lose credibility, self-respect, and sometimes self-esteem when you become a desperate hanger onner, understand that men (WHO WANT TO BE COMMITTED with a particular woman) make decisions for commitment within REASONABLE and fairly quick time-frames, UNDERSTAND most importantly you don’t need 10 babies to get a man to marry you.

 

And one last thing – I want invites to any and all weddings!! 🙂

 

 

That.is.all

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32 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Neecy
    Nov 02, 2012 @ 10:39:50

    Oh God I think this is a record. I have made THREE posts within the last two days!! WOOT WOOT I’m on a roll. When it rains it pours at the Nest. LOL

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  2. Alee
    Nov 02, 2012 @ 10:51:01

    Good post. I completely agree. But I don’t know why everyone is so oohh and aahhh about Jessica and Justin. Getting married doesn’t mean they’ll stay married or that he’ll be faithful… his history is so spotty.

    “Here comes wide hipped flat butt funny faced Khloe Kardashian”

    LOL.

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    • Neecy
      Nov 02, 2012 @ 10:56:59

      I agree. Personally I think she should have moved on from him LOOONG ago. But she couldn’t let go even with his spotty past.

      That is why I was just like “wharves” when they married. It comes off to me as him doing it for professional resins an b/c his mother was also pressuring him to marry her (she likes jess a lot) as well as Jessica and their peers. So he did it.

      But they already have a report saying that they had a “tense” honeymoon.

      While al of this is speculation, some of it is true and especially his past and how he has shown he wouldn’t have married had it not been for the outside pressure.

      personally I don’t really like JT – after how he left Janet to fend for herself after that whole superbowl fiasco and he claimed he “didn’t know” that was going to happen. yeah right Justin, you just wanted to save your ass and career an threw janet under the bus when you were just as responsible.

      Re Khloe- I know that was a cheap shot. LOL I couldn’t resist.

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  3. onthewaydown
    Nov 02, 2012 @ 12:22:09

    Yes…okay, so I think that what you wrote is common sense. However, I have seen a few too many friends fall into this trap. Sometimes they did not learn this growing up, or sometimes limerence comes along and messes with a person’s usually perfectly logical thought patterns.

    Seriously, I have seen some friends who I thought were more sensible than that try the whole clingy, “I can be the one to change him” nonsense. Sometimes I would try to point out the fact that certain actions led to certain consequences (e.g. one friend’s boyfriend was a lot more eager to spend time with her when she had a life that didn’t revolve around him…), but I was the perpetually single friend, so what did I know?

    Actually, I was perpetually single because I knew that I didn’t know what I wanted, and I did not want to end up like some of my friends. But anyways, yes I agree with you, you can’t change a man. I also think that a man ready for marriage releases some signals. Not sure how to explain them…but for example, whenever I see some hopeful woman talking about marrying her love someday, and then he says something like, “Yeah, well…I don’t believe marriage is all that anyway. Why do I need a piece of paper to demonstrate my love?” I would instruct her to run. Far, far away. I remember the last time it happened too…some of the other idealistic young ladies (we were a range of ages, from 18 to 30-something) were cooing about how romantic that was and how right he was. “Aww…he’s so committed to her, he doesn’t even need a piece of paper to show it.” And even though I am one of the younger ladies (it was maybe eight months ago…I was 21), I was not having it. I just gave that man a long, hard look. Because that man and I both knew what he was *really* saying.

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    • Neecy
      Nov 03, 2012 @ 11:42:49

      YEP. A lot of women despite the red flags and clock a tickin still hang on thinking it is going to be HER that can change him into the Prince charming White Knight she desires. Aint gonna happen.

      And yes a woman should be very clear on the Obvious signs a man throws that basically says he does not value marriage. Doesn’t make him a bad person at all and I actually have more respect for a man who does this instead of dragging a woman along lying to her and telling her “one day” when he knows that day is not going to happen.

      But the point is, when someone shows you who and what they are – believe them. If a man is talking how marriage doesn’t mean much to him, HE MEANS THAT and if you are a woman that values marriage you should be heading for the door!

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  4. Zorro
    Nov 03, 2012 @ 02:05:12

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    • Neecy
      Nov 03, 2012 @ 11:37:30

      WOW! If I could reach my arms 3,000 miles to New Engand I would embrace you for this article. I plan on doing a post on many of the points in it as well. THANK YOU!!!

      Pretty much sums up what i have been saying in previous articles. that it is WOMEN who drive the sexual and intimate motivations of men. If women open shop more often and readily for men, men will not have the DRIVE or motivation to do any better. When when close up shop, men do what it takes to get into it. And that is following the *demands* of what women expect before offering up sex.

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  5. Omerta327
    Nov 03, 2012 @ 13:23:46

    Just had a nice hot cup of fresh ground Guatemala coffee and I’m ready to go.

    The reason why Jessica Biel hounded Justin Timberlake for so long is simple – he’s an alpha male, and her value is dwindling, so she was gonna wrestle that python for however long it took.

    While JB is still attractive, she ain’t nearly as hot as she was 7-10 years ago. And she’s never been known for her acting talent – when’s the last time she was even in a major movie? Her status always came from her looks, so her clock was ticking pretty loudly. She’s probably never gonna have a shot at a guy of JT’s status ever again, so she put all her eggs in that basket. From what I heard, during the periods where they weren’t together, she was the one getting all needy and possessive, calling and texting him all time.

    JT, on the other hand, is a bonafide alpha. Rich, successful, talented, decent looking, seems like a cool guy, he’s got it all going for him, and his stock continues to rise. The dude can get all the hot, fresh, prime poon he wants and he took advantage of it. I don’t blame him at all, I’d do the same thing. But the fact that he did means he has a “spotty past”? C’mon, ladies, that’s such a load of crap. Typical womanese.

    And since Neecy mentioned it, he didn’t throw Janet under the bus, either. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing. She needed a big publicity stunt to try and boost her career, which has been sinking for a decade now, and JT was just kind of a useful idiot in the whole debacle. She even chuckled that she had something interesting planned for her halftime performance in an interview a week before the Super Bowl. He even went along with her story in the aftermath, coining the phrase “wardrobe malfunction” (heh heh). How is that throwing her under the bus? Makes no sense.

    Why JT decided to cave in to JB, I have no idea. Did she “tame” or “change” him? Probably not. It definitely wasn’t a case of there being “nothing else out there for him”. No way in hell. I felt the same way when Ashton Kutcher married Demi Moore. Why get married, especially to a woman who’s that much older, when you’ve got all sorts of hot Hollywood babes ripe for the picking? That marriage didn’t last, and neither will JT/JB’s. Now AK’s still on top of his game, and Demi’s life is in shambles. JB won’t hit the wall quite as hard when it all blows up, but she’ll hit it all right.

    Now as for regular folks like us here, marriage is never something to get yourself into unless you’re really sure it’s right. Marriage is an especially tricky proposition for men – you’re entering into a legally binding contract with a woman that totally favors HER. If I get into a LTR with a woman I think is worthy of that risk, I’ll go for it.

    I’ve seen a lot of my friends get married over the years. Six have been thru divorces already, one is in an awful marriage where his wife hates him and he sleeps on the couch every night, one is frustrated cuz after his wife gave birth to twin girls she decided to turn her vajayjay into Fort Knox. The others all seem pretty happy. But with the pretty good sample size I have to draw from, I’d say that even with careful consideration, a happy marriage is still a 50/50 crap shoot.

    And one more point – Lamar Odom’s babymama may not have got that coveted “wifey” status, but you can bet your ass she gets an obscenely fat child support check every month. She probably ain’t complaining.

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  6. Mike
    Nov 04, 2012 @ 16:38:41

    Generally, if a girl is waiting over two years for a proposal, forget it. He doesn’t want to marry you. Two years is plenty of time for a guy to make up his mind. The issue (from a guy’s perspective) in commitment is that the guy has to decide if this girl is going to be the last girl he will ever sleep with. That may not be such a heavy decision for a girl, but if a guy isn’t into you enough to make that commitment, even if everything else in the relationship is great, then it’s not happening.

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    • Zorro
      Nov 05, 2012 @ 07:41:16

      Were I a girl, I would not wait more than a year for a proposal, nor do I think it would take that long for a circumspect young woman to determine if a man was husband material. People can pursue whatever they like, but if men or women desire marriage, one year to decide if he/she has the Right Stuff, and one year of engagement to give the relatives time to adjust.

      People who want marriage should never pursue long term relationships.

      Still, that is advice coming from a numerically-challenged moose, so don’t chisel it into stone just yet.

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      • Neecy
        Nov 06, 2012 @ 13:00:57

        agree Zorro. I don’t think it takes long to determine and get to marriage if that is what BOTH parties want. I have a co-worker who is 5 years in with a dude who obviously doesn’t want to marry her. She keeps sticking it out with him and recently left him and WENT BACK and still has not even received an engagement ring. The sad part is this chick has already given him 5 years of her 20’s when she could have BEEN found another guy to marry her.

        I cannot believe some women continue to stay with dudes that long who clearly are trying to dodge marriage. And if the dude has no intentions on marrying her, he needs to stop dragging her along.

        Its sad because she looks so desperate to me and she has a lot going for herself and knows this. yet she is always complaining yet does nothing. And the one time she did end up leaving and moving it, it was temporarily and she still went back and still hasn’t received a proposal.

        SAD. That is why i said idle threats just make a woman look more desperate f she does not follow through with them.

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    • Neecy
      Nov 06, 2012 @ 12:48:47

      Hey Mke!!

      Thanks for confirming what i always believed. That two years is pretty much the longest time that most men would ever need to know if they are ready for marriage or marriage to a specific woman.

      AlsoThat is a very interesting and informative on what you said regarding what men are thinking when it comes to making that committment. Often times we never hear the male perspective. Usually all we have to do is speculate on why men do this which is basically they don’t want to marry a particular woman or just don’t want to marry for a reason. But we really never know *that* reason.

      This explains why a man can walk away from a LTR in where he was with a woman for a long time and never marry her and then walk into a new relationship and marry very soon.

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  7. Mike
    Nov 09, 2012 @ 05:02:27

    Hi Neecy,

    I guess I need to be clear my opinion that men’s fear of commitment is at its base; because for men the decision to marry is the decision to not sleep with any other women than this one; is my personal opinion. I can’t speak for all men on this because frankly, I’ve never polled my commitment-phobe buddies on this issue. The idea is embarrassing and doesn’t really hold guys in a good light. I makes us seem pretty shallow. In fact, looking back into my own personal history, it was a conclusion that I came to only years after the fact. At the time I couldn’t have described why, if I love this girl and everything in the relationship seems good, why I couldn’t make that next step. I didn’t know then what was holding me back at the time.

    That being said, you’re right, a man can go from a long term relationship to another new relationship and know fairly quickly that he wants to marry THIS girl. Guys are just as susceptible to the heady feelings of romantic love as a woman is, and when it “clicks” he can be in his own mind sure that’s the woman he wants to spend his life with (forsaking all others), even if he’s only been with her a few months.

    That “click” is still a mystery though…

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    • Neecy
      Nov 14, 2012 @ 16:54:07

      Mike,

      I see now. I guess its always best to really hear from the horses mouth. I know we women always come up with the “best” reasons we can for why some men avoid marriage, and I believe you that some men really are thinking about the long term – which isn’t a bad thing.

      It doesn’t help either when we see married women bragging about not giving thier husbands sex, which translates to men that marriage means not only cutting himself off from other women sexually but he may also not even get it from his spouse.

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  8. gregariouswolf
    Dec 30, 2012 @ 13:24:33

    Obligation and guilt are horrible ways to keep a man in a relationship.

    Healthy pressure is just another way of saying you are going to maintain your own boundaries.

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    • Neecy
      Jan 01, 2013 @ 20:09:59

      Hi Greg,

      I don’t think its bad for any person in a relationship to maintain some of their own boundaries. often times when people don’t they end up in a really bad place. i think especially for men, they don’t have as much pressure for committment as women b/c for most men they can wait even until they are much older to marry and still have kids. Its much harder for a woman as she gets older and for women in their prime marriage/fertile years its important that they do not waste time with a man or guy who has no intentions on marrying her anytime soon.

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      • gregariouswolf
        Jan 01, 2013 @ 20:56:56

        Hi Neecy,

        If a woman wants a committed relationship, there is a time to deliver that ultimatum. This is a boundary that she really ought to keep. But there are good ways to deliver that ultimatum, but fear, obligation, and guilt are not among them.

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        • Neecy
          Jan 01, 2013 @ 21:37:50

          ITA. No one should ever use fear, guilt or obligation to run or keep a relationship. But healthy pressure IMO isn’t bad b/c she is being upfront about what her expectations are at a certain point. The reality is a lot of women do not do anything until they start getting desperate and anxious and then that is were the fear, guilt and obligation comes in.

          If they are always making sure the relationship is headed in the direction both are on board with, then she will not ever get to a point of desperation to where she is dishing guilt etc.

          and the guy won’t get comfortable thinking that she is happy and not looking for more (a lot of men do this and I feel that is why women need to place a *HEALTHY* amount of pressure throughout the relationship to keep him aware of what her expectations are.) If she doesn’t, most men will continue to go with the flow and never make a decision – especially if he is straddling the fence or has no plans to settle with that woman.

          A man can be happy in a relationship the way it is for a loooong time and never make a commitment. Women have to avoid this and the best way to do it is to always and constantly have that discussions with him about where the relationship is headed and if they are on the same page.

          Once she sees that maybe they are not on the same page, She will be able to easily move on once she sees its not happening and she won’t wait for that time of desperation to hit before she does it.

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          • gregariouswolf
            Jan 02, 2013 @ 04:05:19

            I think we’re saying much the same thing, though I don’t believe “pressure” is healthy. It is healthy for someone to establish and maintain personal boundaries, and to do something about it when a line has been crossed in the relationship. This is true for both men and women, and it is the responsibility of both parties to communicate their expectations for the relationship. One should not apply pressure throughout the relationship to keep the other person aware of expectations. This is not communication. This is control. I take exception to the use of the adjective “healthy” in this context.

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            • Neecy
              Jan 02, 2013 @ 18:01:09

              Ok I do think we are saying the same thing even though I used the word “pressure” which can come of as trying to coerce or make things happen your way and your way only. I agree that healthy boundaries need to be established and used throughout the entire relationship by both parties.

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              • gregariouswolf
                Jan 02, 2013 @ 18:10:53

                I think we’re saying the same things too.

                And people are going to feel pressure. We’re not Vulcans from Star Trek with no emotions. But what level of commitment someone wants in a relationship is an important question. That’s something if you compromise on it, you’re not really respecting yourself. That’s what boundaries are all about.

                If you wants to move forward, but the other is unsure or dragging their heels, there’s going to be conflict and pressure. I don’t really consider that control. You can’t change someone and you can’t make anyone do something they don’t want to do. Trying to get someone to do something they don’t want to do is control. You just have to honor that boundary in yourself and say you’re not going to wait for the other person to commit.

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  9. Dani
    Feb 09, 2013 @ 13:36:13

    Good post. A few more examples from Hollywood of the starter girlfriend are:
    Daniel Craig and Satsuki Mitchell: Dated 6 years before he ditched her for Rachel Weisz
    Billy Bob Thorton and Laura Dern: Dated some 3 years before he left her for A. Jolie.
    Tom Brady and Michelle Monaghan: Brady married Giselle fairly soon after he and Monaghan broke up.
    Benjamin Millepied and Isabella Bolyston: Even though they were living together, Millepied left the latter for Natalie Portman.

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    • Neecy
      Feb 10, 2013 @ 09:11:59

      WOW.

      So I wonder Dani, is there a sign a woman can see she is being “the starter g/f”? I guess the first clue is, if you want something serious and he drags his feet or if you want marriage and its taking awhile for him to get there. This may be an interesting post for me to tackle. Hmmmm.

      The starter girlfriend.

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      • Dani
        Feb 10, 2013 @ 18:58:02

        Hi Neecy,
        I was hoping that you would tackle that phenomenon in another post. I’ve been looking for any type of information that I could get my hands on regarding it, but I’ve come up short.

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  10. Dani
    Feb 09, 2013 @ 13:38:55

    I also wanted to say that I feel sorry for Jessica Biel because I don’t think that relationship is going to last. Justin does not seem into her at all. Plus, he’s an ass. He seems like an incorrigible narcissist.

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    • Neecy
      Feb 10, 2013 @ 09:10:15

      I CANNOT STAND Justin Timberlake. As you stated I too believe he is a narcissist.

      Like I said I believe he married her for his movie career purposes. he has never seemed into her and half the time they were breaking up int heir relationship based on his infidelities.

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      • Dani
        Feb 10, 2013 @ 19:02:05

        Riiiight! The poor girl is always gushing about him while he barely says anything about her. I know that men tend to be more circumspect in sharing their feelings, but still, he barely mentions the girl. Also, I was not a Justin fan before, but I really disliked him when I read that he didn’t invite a single ex-bandmate to his wedding. I know that people grow apart, but I really just think that in this case, he’s too big for his britches. He should not be so quick to forget, that they are the reason that he got to where he is.

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      • Omerta327
        Feb 12, 2013 @ 23:53:04

        “Like I said I believe he married her for his movie career purposes.”

        Well, seeing that JT is a much bigger celebrity than JB ever was, I don’t see how that makes ANY sense at all. He married her to advance his career? C’mon, Neece, that’s beyond ridiculous.

        And JT is a “narcissist”? What’s your reasoning behind that? I’d like to hear it.

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