RACE WOMEN STRIKE AGAIN: When sister soldiering goes WRONG and becomes DANGEROUS

Ok so I went and visited over to Khadijah’s site in which she did a post  on the recent craziness happening in Ferguson Missouri.

http://muslimbushido.blogspot.com/2014/08/african-american-women-who-march-in.html

First, before I get into the meat of the post let me say in regards to the current wave of police brutality cases against Black men AND BLACK WOMEN (yes there are recent stories of Black women being brutalized by police officers), that this nonsense has to stop.  But its not going to stop with rioting and marching. It stops when Blacks start putting pressure on their local senators and the government and Dept. of Jstice to make sure that sociopathic cops are removed from the police force.

I have always been a supporter of law enforcement especially in Black communities because there are so many Black women and children who are terrorized by the feral Black male loonies in these communities that we NEED police to keep them in check.

HOWEVER, I am not for the constant sociopathic abuse that some of these police officers participate in. The fact is there are a lot of mentally unstable  RACIST  White males who enter law enforcement just to wreak havoc on Blacks because they can get away with it in uniform.This country has a series problem with Police misconduct and it needs to be dealt with.

POLICE BRUTALITY AGAINST BLACK WOMEN – CRICKETS CHIRPING AS USUAL

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Just recently in Los Angeles a Black woman named Marlene Pinnock who is 51 years of age was brutally and savagely beaten by a CHP cop on the side of the freeway. It was caught on camera. She was not resisting arrest. She was a homeless woman walking onto the freeway. She certainly should have been detained and arrested. But what the officer did was utterly disgusting. He straddled her and punched her in the head over 11 times.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/beating-victim-california-highway-patrol-officer-was-trying-to-kill-me/

Another case in NYC where officers responded to a call of child abuse, they went into the (WRONG) home of a Black family and DRAGGED a naked Black woman out and straddled her and cuffed and arrested her while she lay on the ground in just her underwear. While dozens of police officers stand over her. No one tried to cover her up while she lay there naked.

http://newsone.com/3042030/nypd-drag-naked-woman-from-apartment-leave-her-passed-out-on-the-floor/

Another case of a Black professor who worked at Arizona State, was stopped by police officers for JAY WALKING. When she questioned why the officer was stopping her (she had no choice to jay walk because of the construction) he body slammed her to the ground (she was wearing a dress) and cuffed her.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/06/30/video-highlights-arizona-state-police-arrest-black-professor-critics-see-racial

The point I am making is, its not just Black men who are being treated like animals – BLACK WOMEN as well are also being treated as animals by these sick sociopaths that call themselves police officers.

The reason why many of you never heard of any of the stories of Black women and police misconduct is because NO ONE GIVES A SHIT – Not even your average Black woman.

We only care when it is Black males.

Which leads me to the point of this post.

LOOK UP IN THE SKY! IT’S A BIRD….ITS A PLANE!… IT’S – SUPER SISTA SOLDIER!

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BLACK WOMEN need to start recognizing we have our own serious issues we need to be fighting against. We have fought long and hard for others who have yet to rerun the favor (i.e Black men). How many Black men are marching for Marlene Pinnock, or that professor in Arizona, or the Black woman who was dragged out of her apartment and left to lay naked in cuffs while everyone stood around? NONE!

As Khadijah pointed out, the expectation for women to stand on the front lines in the line of fire for the sole purpose of “getting justice” for yet another young Black man, is only expected in the Black community where the women are expected to fight bullets, police and police dogs. It happened during the civil rights era as well.

Instead of Black women allowing Black men to do a man’s job and fight these battles for Black people, once again Black women go out there and strap on their soldier boots and get tear gassed, shot at, wrangled and wrestled, and chased by police dogs – FOR WHAT?

If I ma going to go through all of that, I or my group better benefit in some way for it!

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Also on Khadijas post she quoted some other Black women who are also aware of the lack of reciprocation BW receive for fighting on the front lines for Black males. One pointed out a very important point. Where are all the non Black women that BM are married to and dating when these issues come up? Why is it we never see any of the Non Black women who supposedly love Black men and vice versa standing on the  front lines?

LOL Because these women know that that kind of fight is not reserved for them and Black men know it to. They leave that to BLACK WOMEN. Once the fight is over and Black women are bruised and battered and sitting in jail cells for protesting, they go back to their Non Black women and continue to tell BW why we don’t measure up. LOL

So, in essence, Black men need to start asking their Non Black women they love so much to start taking up arms and fighting that good fight with them. Black women have yet to receive any kind of incentives for riding and dying for Black men or ANYONE.

I am a the point where I am sick of it. I am sick of BW riding for MEN period. Yes this includes WHITE MEN, BLACK MEN and anyone else.

Until I see a group of ANYONE out there standing up for Black women and fighting our fight alongside us, I say keep your battle fights for solely Black women causes ONLY.

Black women need to be focused on riding and dying for ourselves because better believe we have a lot on our plates we need to be focusing on and addressing.

If you want to fight against police brutality – start fighting for the BACK WOMEN whose stories go untold and unheard because no one cares.

There is no RACE of man or woman out her dong ANYTHING for Black women that BW need to constantly be promoting, uplifting and fighting for.

Word of caution: Since we know of their are some sociopathic racist cops out there, the best thing a Black woman can do for herself is to not even try to argue or fuss with them. If you get pulled over, questioned, just answer the damn questions and stop. Do not give these lunatics a reason to treat you like an animal because they are looking for you to do ANYTHING to give them cause to brutalize and man handle you.

And for the love of GOD – STOP CAPING for groups who are not and will never CAPE for you or justice for you.

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  1. onelesssoldier
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 13:20:30

    Thanks for this Neecy. I shared this on the NYGF facebook page I hope that was alright.

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  2. Brenda55
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 15:16:19

    Do you really what to know where the non-black wives and girlfriends of black men are when SHTF?

    They are at home. Safe. That is where their men have insisted they stay until this all blows over. This is not your fight darling. Not your fight. That is generally where women stay. At least the ones that are valued by the men in their lives. Home. Out of the line of fire. Not facing down military grade weapons with nothing more than shrill voices. Black women as gun fodder and for what?

    My husband has insisted on the same thing that black men have for their non-black wives and girlfriends. You know what? I agree. It is not my fight so I will sit on the sidelines. At home. Safe. I will leave it to the brothers out there to deal with a militarized police force. I feel not one bit guilty about that either.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:22:47

      At some point the blame is on Black women for being foolish and stupid enough to keep putting themselves out there like soldiers. Its becoming actually stupid now.

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  3. neurochick
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 16:39:05

    One thing, the case in NYC has gotten a lot of press. It was in the Daily News and I saw it on the news because she’s suing. But you are right, nobody’s marching for her and that’s a shame.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:23:59

      And there are many more. You see BM are self identified as their own collective. They don’t see Black women as a collective group to stand up for. That is why BW have become so vulnerable and also because BW continue to support BM as a collective is why no one respects BW.

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  4. neurochick
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 16:43:15

    I will say one thing. One of the reasons, at least from what I have heard, that so many Black women ride for men is because they’re worried about their sons, what will happen to them when they grow up.

    Maybe when the day comes when the sons of White women get killed by the police, you might see them on the front lines as well. Many Black men walk out on White and Non Black women as well. A sorry man is a sorry man and no woman can change a sorry man. Sorry.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:26:06

      That’s funny. I always hear Black women quip about their undying support and fighting for BM because “it could be their son, father, husband, brother” yet I’ve never heard a Black woman say anything of the sort when it comes to the abuse, neglect of Black women and girls that it could be their “daughter, sister, mother,” etc.

      So I am no longer buying that anymore. As usual its always one sided as if Black men are the only Black people who suffer in this community.

      More reason for smart BW leave atypical Black groupthink and communities and never look back. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT their daughters.

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      • key
        Aug 31, 2014 @ 00:13:41

        As Evia has said, “Bw are conditioned to think a certain way.” Most of us are conditioned to worry about everyone but, ourselves. However, things are changing.

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    • key
      Aug 31, 2014 @ 00:10:04

      I have asked the same question, “When will other culture women stand up and go march for their beloved black man? Of course, most will never march for these men. When trouble arrives, most of those women will stay safe at home. I still do not know why Henry Gates’ wife did not stand up for him when the cop was giving him a hard time. I assume he is still married to her.
      In our staff meeting one guy said he wanted to bring more speakers to campus, especially for the black male students. Really? They are the only ones with issues? This guy is so fake.

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    • itsmeak
      Sep 11, 2014 @ 13:01:24

      But because some white women’s sons are biracial/mixed race some of these protests may very well end up being for them especially for a biracial boy or man growing up in a black neighbourhood and having mostly black friends and I think white women and other non-black women would still be out of sight and safe. Maybe their mother will be on TV news or the Today show but that’s it.

      In London during the summer of 2011, a biracial teen was killed while a police officer was trying to restrain him and every underclass black and white person up and down the UK not even just London just tore through every shop and business demolishing and setting fires like you wouldn’t believe just like in the situation in Ferguson, MO. This was terrible considering London had to straighten up, build up and get organized for the Olympics for the following summer a year later.

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  5. Robynne
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 18:58:25

    What I find interesting about these male centred females is that they never seem to have the same concern with regards to their daughters. In some cases, they will be the first to throw her under the bus. I will never understand the logic behind advocating for a collective that has shown its utter contempt for you and those who look like you consistently (deflecting their own self hatred unto bw/bg). It is not as if these women will ever gain anything in return from these males as a collective – they are simply cannon fodder and, as Khadija and Neecy have pointed out, they look like a bunch of morons standing at the front-lines in the intense heat of battle, muling literally to the very end. I am also extremely annoyed at the online mammying as well…there is always radio silence when similar incidents strike bw/bg’s, but let it be a bm, all hell breaks loose. BM however, are much too selfish and self absorbed as a collective to wonder “what if this were my wife/daughter/niece,” plus, it is no secret that they as a collective place little to no value on family anyway….they don’t even have nearly the same concern for other bm/bb’s as bw do when these incidents occur!

    >>>>Maybe when the day comes when the sons of White women get killed by the police, you might see them on the front lines as well.>>>> I’d say nah, because they can always count on mammy mule bw for that sort of advocacy!

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:28:06

      ROBYNNE,

      COuldn’t have said it better myself. You never hear BM or even BW concerned about the fact it could be their “daughter, rice, mother, sister” in these instances. i am so sick of this illness of pretending Black women and girls don’t exist. Any BW who continues to support a community that sees her and her struggles as invisible is just as sick as the people who keep ignorng the suffering of BW and girls.

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    • key
      Aug 31, 2014 @ 00:18:55

      Hey Robynne: Most of these bw can’t get a dollar out of those men.

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  6. Pumpkin
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 20:42:36

    I agree that the support is one-sided, but I can’t say that I disagree with the outrage over Michael Brown either. I think that our outrage should be equally spread over the police brutality against Michael Brown and Renisha McBride, the college professor all of that. I can’t completely disconnect myself from Black men anymore than I can Black women because Michael Brown could be my son…or yes, perhaps my husband. Just like I could easily be Renisha McBride or the professor.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:29:26

      The problem is no matter what YOU Pumpkin or I needy say, th collective Black community only sees suffering when it is BLACK MALES. You can say that all you want, but the reality is the average Black person doesn’t think on that level of seeing Black women and girls as sufferers.

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    • key
      Aug 31, 2014 @ 00:28:17

      No offense. When I was a child my grandmother used to say, “Don’t put yourself in a bad situation.” Michael unfortunately put himself in a bad situation. Did you see the video of him leaving the store? If he paid for the cigars, he could have showed the receipt. And, no I do not believe Michael should have been shot. I do not play with the police and I have taught my son the same. The cop was wrong and so was Michael.

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  7. Pumpkin
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 21:23:28

    yeah, I’m still gonna support Black men who are persecuted, but I agree Black women deserve more protection and support. We need a society for the support of black women victims of police brutality or something…someone ought to start one and we need to enlist Black males to support us…surely there are some black men out there who are just as outraged about the brutality black women face.

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    • onelesssoldier
      Aug 17, 2014 @ 10:31:25

      @pumpkin

      Your loyalty would only be good if there were the chance that bw will be remembered for such. Instead, the same black women who are busy marching and “supporting” these bm, these same bm (yes even family) are the same ones who love to forget this and overwrite what black women have done (civil rights movement anyone?) You seem to be under the impression that bm will appreciate it later and won’t use it as an excuse to claim bw “emasculate” them later.

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    • onelesssoldier
      Aug 17, 2014 @ 10:37:56

      @ pumpkin.

      If there were hordes of BM out their who actually gave a damn when Black Women were hurt wouldn’t BM be protesting those inumerable victims. Wouldn’t they be speaking out against domestic violence and sexual assult they perpetrate or even their supposed “enemies” perpetrate against black women. What I see are excusers who victim blame black women (like the bm who wrote an article saying that renisha mcbride was Nothing like Trayvon Martin because she was high) although reports stated that Trayvon Martin was too. I see searches for the perfect “black female victim” and most of all I see angry ONLY when BM are the ones hurt. You see exactly where those bm who care about other bm are they are on the streets and taking to social media. For black women SILENCE. If you have to SEARCH far and wide to find it. if you haven’t already found it in the some 150 years since slavery ended for a BM to advocate PUBLICLY and LOUDLY for black women. They weren’t there to begin with.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:31:19

      and we need to enlist Black males to support us

      If you have to “ENLIST” BM to help BW then you have already lost as a BW.

      Yo are free to keep hope alive. The more progressive BW are finished and no longer have an interest in trying to ENLIST BM to help us. That should come naturally. But you have your right to keep believing and hoping and praying on something that will NEVER and has NEVER happened.

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    • neurochick
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 09:10:54

      @Pumpkin:

      The problem is that BW will stand behind BM, but when all is said and done, BM will not stand with BW. Look at OJ Simpson, when his trial was going on, he was seen in Black churches, hanging around Black people. When he was found not guilty, he went back to the blondes. I don’t have a problem with who anybody wants to date or marry, but I do have a problem with a man asking me to stand and fight for him, when he wouldn’t do the same for me. And once it’s over, he acts like I don’t exist.

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      • ImAwake
        Aug 18, 2014 @ 21:51:54

        Neurochick

        This. Right. Here. O.J. and his dream team played Black women like a finely tuned instrument. Everyone knew it was the two BW ton the jury hat needed to be swayed. Marcia Clark was banking on the BW to identify as women, she failed to realize that race it is more important to BW than gender. But Johnny Cochran knew this. In a very round about way it was sisters who saved OJ’s asre.

        Years ago I did volunteer work on one case for “closeted” DBR BM who had convinced those of us in the Community that he was being set up and railroaded by the Man. Talk about being played. He was actually guilty of the crime but during his trial he was able to garnered so much money from the community read Black women that he was able to pay off his parents mortgage. And still had enough money to put on the books while he did his time.

        It was the BWE that removed the blinders for me to see this was just another form of pimping. And women lined up to be pimped I mean support him (or OJ) because they rationalized that could have been their father, brother, son etc.

        After the trial it was revealed that he was a professional criminal who had Hepatitis (he infected a few of his supporters); was in and out of prison more times than i can count. About 2 years ago a friend stumbled across his profile on a gay web site for Bears.

        Good and DBR BM know that they can take our support to the bank in spite of the fact they haven’t done anything deserving of it. This is what the BWE movement has shined the light on and given me the tools to end MY gas lighting. Thank you ladies!!!!

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  8. Pumpkin
    Aug 16, 2014 @ 22:31:08

    @ neecy,

    “I have always been a supporter of law enforcement especially in Black communities because there are so many Black women and children who are terrorized by the feral Black male loonies in these communities that we NEED police to keep them in check.”

    police don’t really keep abusive black men in check though, they’re more likely to harass innocent black men or black men who commit non-violent crimes, then ignore the black men who abuse black women…that’s why black women are more likely to experience domestic abuse and then a study out of chicago said that when black women contacted law enforcement to stop the abuse the black women were actually more likely to be arrested…so police really don’t care about black women’s wellbeing in general. there are some exceptional officers who just care about everyone.

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    • onelesssoldier
      Aug 17, 2014 @ 10:33:29

      @ pumpkin
      little known fact but black women are actually MORE likely to get a conviction from their perpetrators for things like sexual assault when the perpetrator is WHITE. Apparently it is less likely to happen if the perpetrator is Black

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  9. foosrock!
    Aug 17, 2014 @ 02:48:00

    Is anyone marching or looting?
    This über huge guy was no innocent angel
    Why was he walking on the street?
    Didn’t he just robbed and terrorised a much smaller person which meant he was on an aggressive high?

    If I lived in a country whereby most people who looked like me were likely to be abused for the slightest infraction by those in power, I would be a model citizen.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:33:21

      BINGO FOOS!

      But you cannot tell Black people anything. That’s not keeping it real. As long as money is flowing in the pockets of these rappers and thugs who promote the lifestyle that makes people look at the value of Black life as ZERO (because Blacks show little to no value for Black life), then we will continue to see this happen.

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  10. Shaylah
    Aug 17, 2014 @ 07:23:54

    This is not a good look for Black Women. Now they are bringing in military equipment. You look at those pictures they look like a war in Iraq, no it is in the USA. Where are the black churches? I know. Cowering in fear. They have a new chief of police. He is black and a resident if Ferguson. I don’t know about you, but BLACK COPS ARE WORST THAN WHITE ONES. They tend to power trip and I know from first hand experience. Remember that black guy Oscar Grant when the police had him down on the ground and the police officer shot him in the back even though he was handcuffed.? When they did a background check, they found out he had a record. No, he didn’t deserve to die but I usually notice that when people do a thorough investigation, this is not the first time that person had run ins. They had show that black man broke into this suburban house and the woman had put the nanny cam on but she did not know about him breaking in it just was on for another reason and they caught him. HE JUST GOT OUT OF JAIL.Other people don’t have a soft spot for Pookie because most men of ethnic backgrounds protect women and deal with anyone who threatens their wives/girlfriends and children.this problem has been going on for a long time and law enforcement have to be dealt with inside out. It has a lot of layers and this is just the tip of it.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:35:01

      If race identified BW want to risk life and limbs for a collective group who wouldn’t do it for them, then that is their prerogative at this point. The problem is, they are the face of the AA woman and you better believe the world is watching and seeing that BW like acting like men and doing a man’s job – HENCE why we keep being treated as such.

      SMH

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  11. KP
    Aug 17, 2014 @ 13:53:01

    Whew…sorry for the long post in advance. Thank you, Neecy, Khadija, and all the other alive and awake BW who are speaking out on this issue. Before Khadija made her post, I went through some of her archives at Sojourners Passport to steel my mind against all the sad and pathetic images I saw of BW rallying in Ferguson, MO.

    With the cases you mentioned above, and several others I can think of in just the past few months, those BW have had plenty of opportunity to rally against racist and sexist mistreatment from cops against BW, but no, too many male-identified, misogynistic women, who have no clue what they’re doing to their image, only want to battle and rally when it’s BM who are killed, beaten, and maimed by racist cops. Unfortunately the message they are sending may affect all of us as BW.

    Upon seeing these images of BW rallying in Ferguson, I immediately thought to a post Khadija did where she discussed how BW during the CRM weren’t rockstars and didn’t get the benefits the BM did during that time. Many of those women died alone, unloved, and forgotten.

    It also made me think to something Shola Lynch, the director of the Free Angela documentary stated. She said that the one thing that shocked her the most when she talked to viewers about the documentary was that people could not believe that Angela Davis was in a relationship. Most people thought her love life was an embellishment. How can you embellish someone’s love life in a dag on documentary? Seriously? When the director questioned people on their disbelief about Angela Davis’s relationship, many revealed that they deemed her unlovable. Yes, she was viewed as unlovable for her radical political activism.

    I had never heard anyone say such things about radical WW who worked as political activists or as radical feminists. Never! But this is how we BW are viewed and deny ourselves of our own femininity when we do these types of things. Good enough to fight the power, but unlovable, undesirable, and cast to the shadows when we are no longer needed.

    Which leads me into another epiphany I had from watching all of this go down. These non-MSM affiliated white journalists out there in Ferguson are really making their CAREERS out of this. THEY are the ones CNN, MSNBC, Huffington Post, and all other MSM outlets are piggybacking off of for information. I heard the BW who organized most of the rallies and marches (go figure), who many of these white journalists supposedly know and have been talking to is really upset because these white journalists who are “allies” aren’t giving her credit. Of course they aren’t going to give you credit! They are only out there to make a name for themselves, and the sista soldiers will have nothing to show for all of their grunt work once again.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:40:21

      Unfortunately the message they are sending may affect all of us as BW.

      THUS why its imperative for Progressive BW to move and act quickly.

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  12. Formavitae
    Aug 17, 2014 @ 14:34:37

    Once again, ITA, with this post.

    Not even touching the tip of the iceberg, I think one reason why society is becoming increasingly comfortable with the dehumanization of AAs is the portrayal of AAs in popular so-called AA culture. I won’t go into the details, because you all are fully aware. This is why it’s ALL THE MORE imperative for AA women and girls to reject the images and behaviors they see in popular media. People don’t see BW and children as vulnerable, sensitive beings. A popular culture that emphasizes being tough and aggressive certainly doesn’t help.

    It saddens me and makes me ill, to see AAs so violently treated and returning to a slave status. But, this is what AAs have chosen. They have prioritized affiliation with others at any (group) cost, have taught their children to value affiliation with others more than affiliation with themselves, and they refuse to discourage/forbid their children from neglecting group needs. Now, the majority of AAs with any ethnic pride and sense of self-preservation are dying off, and the children are hastening the group’s plummet into the abyss.

    These things are fatiguing and emotionally too much to bear.

    I think any SMART AA woman better focus on making sure she’s part of a protected and cherished group, because AAs are committed to self-neglect and abandonment.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 01:43:29

      Its only going to get worse before it gets better. The news is depressing and tiring as you said, but BW need to be very aware that we are in DIRE need of focusing on our own efforts.

      BW and young Black girls are suffering in this country – WITH NO ONE who gives a damn.

      I just read a story of a 5 year old Black girl who was PUNCHED in her face and given a black eye by her teacher. The teacher has yet to be arrested however, the teacher has only been suspended.

      THIS is the value on Black women and girls in this country and society. A five year old Black girls gets PUNCHED by an adult teacher and its not on any national news, the teacher is not sitting in a damn jail cell – NOTHING.

      You better believe if ANY teacher ever punched and gave a little White or Asian girl a Black eye, the entire planet would hear about it, and that teacher would be fired and sitting in jail.

      Where are the BLACK MEN on this? Pssh!

      And you got these stupid BW out here marching for any and everything that has a Black mans name on it!

      https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=teacher+in+tenessee+punched+5+year+old&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=teacher+in+tennessee+punched+5+year+old&rls=en&spell=1

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      • KP
        Aug 18, 2014 @ 07:35:48

        Oh.My.God! A teacher punched a student? And isn’t in jail? Umm…If that were my child I would be pressing charges so quickly! This really hurts my heart that a teacher would punch that little girl in the face. She’s a baby!

        Oh and that foolish girl who got shot in the head was back out in the streets protesting the next day. Ma’am, you got shot in the HEAD!

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  13. Neecy
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 02:03:43

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  14. Neecy
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 02:05:03

    It is IMPERATIVE for BW with any semblance of sanity left to just STOP.

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  15. neurochick
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 09:24:29

    I have been watching all this mess in Ferguson and find it interesting. Yes, the place looks like Iraq, not the USA, but here’s why.

    When George Bush was president, a few years after 9/11, he handed money everywhere, for them to fight terrorism. Bloomberg was angry because he felt that most of the money should go to cities like DC and NYC, because…those were the places that were attacked (duh), but Bush just spread the money around, to places that really didn’t need it. So the weapons and stuff just sat around, just waiting to be used.

    Now here comes this mess in Ferguson and the cops, who have been just waiting to use this military gear are using it, on American citizens. Also folks have to remember that many of these cops, especially the young ones, were teenagers when 9/11 happened, and I don’t care what anybody says, 9/11 traumatized a lot of people, people who weren’t in NYC or DC that day. But seeing those images over and over again made quite an impact on a lot of people. There were many young men who joined the military BECAUSE of 9/11, and I’m sure more than a few joined the police department too. So many have been waiting to “fight the terrorists” and feel that now they have their chance.

    So IMO, any BW with any sense should just stay home. Staying home and staying neutral doesn’t mean you don’t care, but it does mean that you’re not going to put your body on the line, nothing wrong with that at all. Nothing wrong with self preservation.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 10:34:38

      EXACTLY. Not putting myself in a line fire for NO ONE – especially those that could give a shit about me or those who look like me. HA!

      Chicks getting shot in the head and the running back out the next day to protest. Unbelievable!

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  16. Evia
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 11:31:52

    Neecy, I just wrote a post where I’m addressing some of this. ONE reason black women are now being beaten or savaged like men by certain black men and certain white cops is because some black women ARE behaving like SHEMALES. Not saying this is the only reason, but there’s the perception that black women are more physically aggressive females or like more manlike than other females–even when compared to other black females. This is a relatively new perception because AA women didn’t used to be seen as physically aggressive or manlike. Sure, many were viewed as Sapphires (sharp-tongued), but not physically combative in the general sense.

    We need to admit this and speak out about it to AA women before this gets any worse. Some black women WILL actually fight a male/man even when she could just walk away. Of course, if a man is trying to take her life or physically attacks her, she should do WHATEVER she needs to do–and by ANY means necessary–but when I was working in NYC and Baltimore, I often saw where black teen girls were ENCOURAGED and even expected by other black teen females and males to fight males. Naturally these males around their age were much stronger, but a small male child of 8 or 9 is often as strong as most adult women and especially when he’s angry. My point is that I’ve NEVER seen girls of ANY other group peer-pressured to go toe-to-toe with any males, and I mingle in other groups constantly. This is actually virtually unheard of in other groups.

    Now, I’m NOT advocating anything here, but we know from history and news accounts that some women have always waited until a male was asleep or intoxicated to fight back against him or get back at him, but sometimes AA girls and women will jump right in a man’s face anytime while he is in an enraged state. I was sent research that shows when AA males hit BLACK females, they don’t restrain themselves. The research shows that injuries of AAbw spousal abuse victims are more severe than the ones incurred by women of other groups and races from their men. I will find that research or maybe someone else can find it and post it.

    We MUST get the word out to black girls and women NOT TO FIGHT ANY MAN. Walk away! Better still–don’t even put yourself in the position where you might even need to try to physically fight a man. Don’t even talk to him; just try to get away–in one piece or without any bodily harm!

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 11:50:04

      Hi Evia!

      Thank you so much for posting this. You hit the nail on the head. BW have proudly shown that we like being aggressive and combative with men and now we are being treated as such.

      While MOST BW will never have an issue with cops the fact is the race identified BW who think being combative with a man and going unscathed need to know, that many men will not walk away from assaulting a BW because society doesn’t value our femininity as such and because BW are generally known to be “fight ready” and like you said are being encouraged to do so from early ages.

      I’ve been lucky to never get any crazy cop whe I’ve been pulled over. But you know what? I’m nice and non combative with them and a lot of times they will let you go with a warning.

      This is why it’s imperative for BW to public ally embrace their femininity and speak out against fighting and feh ting men because it’s affecting how we are treated as women (or lack thereof) in society.

      Also I wholeheartedly believe that study you stated that shows Black men are more physically aggressive towards BW. the fact of the matter that many BW don’t want to admit is, the collective of Black males HATE black women.

      That is why there are never any marches for our issues and suffering, etc.

      Any BW WHO CONTINUES TO DENY THIS – IS NUTS!

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      • Elle
        Aug 20, 2014 @ 17:22:52

        This is an interview with woman rap artist Remy Ma. Remy Ma is what many would consider damaged or damaged beyond repair. She was just released from prison for I believe assault. I think this interview is a worthwhile listen for women in the reading audience who may not be convinced at what you and Evia have been saying about black women combativeness and how this perception of us works to our detriment. She speaks on how people’s perception of her as bad due to past actions before going to jail made the courts have less mercy on her.How sometimes women receive MORE time in prison than men for committing the same crimes.She also speaks on how women in prison/ female criminals are not supported like men are. Issues of reciprocity are spoken about without saying that word.The contempt that people have for imperfect black women is spoken on as well

        Start listening at about the 7 minute mark keep listening to about or past the 13 minute mark .she touches on a lot of what is being talked about here. It was weird that I found this interview right after reading this post.

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  17. Evia
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 12:45:12

    Yes, Neecy, I too, got stopped by a white policeman on 95 South for speeding. LOL! I decided to use a little charm to try to avoid the ticket and it worked. Not saying this usually works but human beings–being what we are–a little charm NEVER hurts. In another case, I wrongly got a traffic ticket and I went to court to avoid paying it. I lost the case, but I wasn’t about to try to argue on the spot with someone who has a lethal weapon on his hip. I might’ve won the actual argument but I also might’ve been dead. AA girls and women apparently need to be reminded of this before they try to physically fight men.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 16:50:18

      You know Evia,

      The more I read and see what is happening to the Black woman collective and the apparent dis interest the average BW has in improving the lot of the collective, the more I realize that an intentional community is probably the only way for BW who want to remove themselves from this nonsense can go.

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      • Evia
        Aug 18, 2014 @ 19:18:09

        Yes, Neecy, I realized years ago that separation from the madness is a big part of the solution for SOME segments of AAbw because the madness cannot ever be cured. But many AAbw LOVE some of those folks in Blackistan who are ripping them up. They also love certain aspects of the Blackistani lifestyle. This is why some of the women find all kinds of reasons why they “just can’t” escape or can’t do it anytime soon. LOL!

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      • key
        Aug 31, 2014 @ 01:57:16

        One Nigerian student told me last week when she graduates she will leave America. Some of the things she sees she does not agree with.

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  18. JustPassingThrough
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 13:49:22

    I’ve been following and observing on twitter, apparently many black women are reporting being harassed by black men at vigils and peaceful events. And yet these women STILL keep going to these marches and events.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 16:55:46

      That is just… I have no words.
      Not only that thugs are also using this as an opportunity to do shooting as well.

      Someone was killed in a restaurant shooting and they don’t know if the black girl who was shot in head, was shot by thugs in drive by or police.

      I just can’t..

      BW also need to remember how BM acted when hurricane Katrina hit. There were so many rapes and sexual assaults on the women and girls it was disgusting.

      Now I am not against BW going to peaceful vigils, but if this kind of nonsense is happening it’s just ridiculous that they would continue to even go if they are being harassed.

      Unbelievable!

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      • key
        Aug 31, 2014 @ 02:19:18

        This is the 9th anniversary of Katrina. My son was a cop and we were (cops/emergency personnel) were living in the W hotel in the Quarter. People were up all times of the night and early morning, no tv reception. I couldn’t sleep, so I went down stairs to see if there was someone to talk to. My son and I shared a room. As I was leaving my room, there were three big size cops walking through the hall’s entrance. I went down stairs no one was there. So, I went back to my room. No one had keys to their rooms…I have no I idea why we were not given keys. The rooms were given to the police temporarily. Police also provided hotel protection in return. As I come through the hallway’s entrance door which was across from my room, who is coming out of my room but one of those big cops. He says underneath his breath he thought he was in his room. There is no way he could have made that mistake, he just came up five minutes ago. And, all the nearby rooms were already filled. I often wonder what he would have done if I had caught him in my room. What was he looking to steal or worst? Lucky, for me my son was asleep in the room. One would think he or she would be safe with so many cops and military personnel all over the place. I left a day or two later.

        Ladies, if there is an emergency please do not stay, even if you have to spend your rent money. LEAVE. The stores and gas stations will be closed. The electricity will go out. Your once lighted streets will be darken, scary is right. LEAVE. Many people could not afford to leave or just did not think the worst was going to happened and it did. LEAVE. LEAVE. You can always buy material things, it might take you awhile. But, you cannot buy back your life. LEAVE. LEAVE.

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  19. APA
    Aug 18, 2014 @ 16:15:14

    JustPassingThrough:

    They are at vigils and peaceful demonstrations for a boy, who was needlessly shot dead by the police, and the black men, who were present could not behave themselves! If that is not a wake up call, then I don’t what is. This is just another clear example of how the black community does not place any value on the lives and wellbeing of BW. It makes no difference how respectable, educated, or well-mannered you are. They just don’t respect BW as human beings. In some of our people’s conscious and unconscious minds, BW ain’t sh**, and it shows in their behavior. Instead of thanking these sisters for their support, these BM chose to sexually harass these women. BW need to remember these incidents, so the next time some BM accuses them about not caring/caping for their causes, needs, desires etc., they won’t be fooled. I’m beginning to think that there are very few truly “good” black men left. There are educated BM with “good” jobs, (intact) families, no criminal records, yada, yada, yada. However, they couldn’t care less about the welfare of the BW in their lives and that includes their mothers, sisters, aunties, etc. Let’s be real, the only reason BM “love” their female relatives so much is because these women cater to them completely and pamper them, which results in them being spoiled and forces many BW in relationships with BM to do a lot (if not most) of the financial and emotional heavy lifting required to maintain the relationship/household.

    In addition, many black people are conveniently ignoring the fact that BW are also unjustly harassed, assaulted, and killed by the police because it doesn’t fit the narrative of the poor, oppressed BM. I don’t know why legions of BW are coming out to prove their allegiance to the black community, when they know that the black community does not have their backs or care about them. For the black community, every social issue plaguing BM is due to the man/system, and every social issue plaguing BW is due to the fact that we’re trifling and refuse to exercise good judgement and take responsibility for our actions, which is funny when you consider that BM play an active role in many of the social ills that BW experience (e.g. OOW births, broken homes, high incidence of STDs). When you talk to most BW (even those not familiar with BWE), they are aware of this dichotomy, but for some reason they can’t simply cut the cord. They would rather stay in a losing situation then move on.

    Evia:

    Regarding the perception of BW as shemales, I wholeheartedly agree. All BW need to not only refrain from fighting males, but they need to be as non-confrontational as possible and learn to pick their battles, period. Unless you are a quiet and meek as a mouse, most people think that inside every BW that there is a Sheniqua under there just waiting to come out and mollywhoop your behind given the right circumstances. I’ve even heard my BW acquaintances support this stereotype. I remember one night we were driving back home from a conference in college, and someone mentioned that some media personality was being accused of domestic violence, and this foolish BW jokingly said that if it was a BW getting beaten, then we shouldn’t worry or feel sorry for her because she was probably fighting and being equally as aggressive. What a funny joke, right? Not! She said this in a car full of non-blacks. I couldn’t understand why she would want to affirm such a harmful stereotype.

    A lot of BW don’t know how to be feminine. Many BW express their femininity by wearing lots and lots of makeup, long weaves, skin tight clothes, fake nails, etc. Khadija linked to an article where a BW blogger noted that a lot of black women have the same aesthetics as drag queens, which is true! I’ve seen too many memes where an actual black woman and a drag queen are side by side, and the joke is to figure out which is which. When BW dress up like video vixens/drag queens, they are appealing and limiting themselves to a certain demographic–BM, who aren’t all that interested in marrying BW and who ironically actually appreciate the softer, feminine aesthetics upheld by other women. This big booty, big thighs, tight dress, heavy makeup, and long weave aesthetic is an expectation that they choose to foist only on BW. The only WW, AW, and hispanic women who are emulating the video vixen look are those who are trying to catch ballers and rappers.

    I think that any BW looking to branch out should take etiquette classes and/or attend finishing school/charm school for adults or at least read a few books on the topic. Also, learn how to diffuse conflict gracefully without losing your composure even if the individual in question is difficult and unreasonable. In addition, flip through a few fashion magazines from time to time to learn more sophisticated ways of dressing.

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    • Neecy
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 16:58:32

      You know APA the only thing I think BW who wish to save what is left of our ability to live a carefree good life do, is completely desperate from today’s BC start our own communities and build from there all over again. There is just no other choice at this point.

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      • APA
        Aug 18, 2014 @ 19:18:45

        Neecy,

        I’m starting to feel the same way again. There are times when I have positive interactions with black people (mainly BW), which restore my faith in the black community. Then, there are times like these when I feel like why even bother. However, I will say that I am not a race woman and have never been a race woman and have always felt comfortable socializing in non-black settings. In fact, it wasn’t till after college that I started doing a significant amount of my socializing in black (professional) circles. I just feel like the lack of cohesiveness in the black community leaves many black people vulnerable in today’s society. A lack of cohesiveness leads to diminished social and political capital. I personally believe that black people’s inability to effectively organize their social and political power is the reason why incidents like these are on the rise, which is why I still try to maintain and cultivate healthy, beneficial connections and relationships within the black community while actively cultivating relationships in other communities.

        The rioting in Ferguson is a perfect example of how a lack of nurturing, functioning communities within the black collective can lead to disastrous effects. The black community in Ferguson either consciously or subconsciously believes that they lack the power, know how, and discipline to hold their political leaders accountable, so the avenue that they chose to express their frustration was to destroy their already struggling community. No letters to their senators, representatives, mayors, governors, etc. stating that they could forget getting the black vote next election cycle if severe, concrete consequences were not handed down to the law enforcement officers involved. No political demands or ultimatums, but there have been a lot of angry protests, riots, shootings, and looting. Law enforcement officials perpetuating these crimes know that no one will hold them accountable. The police officer involved will probably just be suspended with pay until the commotion dies down, and more black citizens in Ferguson will continued to be harassed and dealt with even more harshly and violently. All I have to say is that I’m glad that the AAs of the Civil Rights Movement were more disciplined, principled, and shrewd. Otherwise, we would still be suffering under the tyranny of Jim Crow and abhorrent racism.

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    • Evia
      Aug 18, 2014 @ 19:40:54

      “All BW need to not only refrain from fighting males, but they need to be as non-confrontational as possible and learn to pick their battles, period.Unless you are a quiet and meek as a mouse, most people think that inside every BW that there is a Sheniqua under there just waiting to come out and mollywhoop your behind given the right circumstances.”

      There’re just SO much that could be said about this GREAT advice you gave! This is almost an entire philosophy in itself. Picking your battles is so KEY!

      AAbw reading this need to PLAN their lives and their children’s lives so that they don’t find themselves in these provocative situations in general. But given the situation many AAbw are born and raised in, it takes a PLAN for them to get out, but it’s not hard to do once they make a concrete decision to do it.

      A lot of these situations could be avoided IF bw changed their social/peer group and cultivated new tastes in various parts of their lives–little by little. It would be better to just have ONE person to socialize with or even just a pet then to constantly be around people who might provoke you. Many people are highly entertained by Sheniqua who is known to proclaim: “I am NOT the one!” and many folks know by now that’s the prelude for a FREE Sheniqua show. So some people will pick at AA women just to see her Sheniqua because as you said, a LOT of people believe that Sheniqua lurks right beneath the surface in ALL AA women. Remember how some people still believe that Michelle is putting on a ladylike “act” and that the President of the United States is afraid of her!

      Still, AA women can’t allow others to diss them. They simply need to learn other ways to handle these situations and the best way to learn this is to see them modeled around them. What you said about not knowing how to be feminine could also be addressed by being around so-called feminine women. That’s a murky area to pin down though. For ex., it never occurred to me that I might be what you’re referring to as “feminine” until I started reading about how some bw don’t know how to be feminine. It made me wonder whether I and some other women I know are feminine and the only thing I can say about that is that I’ve personally never gotten any complaints from my husbands and no one has ever accused me of not being feminine. I’d never even heard of any heterosexual woman NOT being “feminine” until the last few years. This is a new phenomenon, so I’d be curious to read more about this. I wonder whether there’s anyone writing about this.

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      • JaliliMaster
        Aug 19, 2014 @ 07:40:00

        Evia, just so you know, I cannot access your site. It is saying ‘unable to find server’. I don’t know if there is a problem with the site, as I tried using a different device, and it said the same thing. Just wanted to let you know in case there was a problem you were not aware of.

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  20. chongo
    Aug 19, 2014 @ 00:55:55

    Neecy, thank you, thank you and THANK YOU for this edifying post. For stating what Black Women need to hear, what the should be told and what the must know.

    As I watched events unfold via mainstream and social media, I was saddened by the death of the young black man but I was curious about the reaction of black women. I was hoping, they would sit this one out but …nooooo. *sigh*

    Then I looked to see if any of the non-black women (that black men adore) were on the front lines, were human shields and ….nooooo (correct me if I am wrong).

    I am glad there are many black women who are putting themselves and their interest first. I would love all black women to do this but to each their own. Spaces such as yours, Khadija, Evia, Halima and one less soldier’s (to name a few) are great places for those black women who want to protect themselves and their black daughters. Black women who know the meaning of reciprocity and want to see it applied and working. Or black women who want to ‘know better and do better’.

    As black women we need to protect ourselves, serve our own interests – no one will do it for us, no one has ever done it for us, nor are they interested in doing it for us. I say to black women and black girls who are in Ferguson sucking up tear gas, dodging rubber bullets and staring down tanks – get off the front lines you’re not in the army. Go and use that energy to strategise about building a better life for yourself. Keep up with news if you must but please live your life – you have it to live.

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  22. HomesteadGlamourGurl
    Aug 19, 2014 @ 11:45:29

    Chongo, you said ” Go and use that energy to strategise about building a better life for yourself. Keep up with news if you must but please live your life – you have it to live.”

    Exactly! How many of these women and girls will burn up time, money, and mental/emotional energy on this issue, while their own situation is not stable? I too would ask that BW divert most of these resources to taking care of themselves. Food keeps going up– are any of these women growing any of their own? The economic situation is shifting–do any of them have plans for alternative income? Having a supportive network–including a husband–can be the difference between life and death, thriving vs. merely thriving–are they slogging through life alone?

    What was it Khadija used to say on her blog?

    People, get ready!

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    • neurochick
      Aug 19, 2014 @ 18:50:33

      I wonder how many of the people protesting have just basic life skills.

      A friend and I were lamenting on how cooking has become a lost art today. Cooking is life; if you know how to cook, you can save yourself a lot of money. Eating out eats at your paycheck.

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    • Chongo
      Aug 25, 2014 @ 00:16:40

      Absolutely HomesteadGlamourGurl. Black women should focus on improving their lives, protecting their interests and establishing or finding supportive networks. It’s high time Black women were thriving.

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    • omerta327
      Sep 02, 2014 @ 20:09:55

      “What was it Khadija used to say on her blog?

      “People, get ready!”

      Funny,I thought Curtis Mayfield said that.

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  23. Firefly 88
    Aug 22, 2014 @ 13:27:38

    One of the sites that I visit from time to time posted something to the effect of BW need protection too and are victims too. It was telling in that I only saw BWs commenting and such and no BM commenting in the affirmative or at all except the moderator. This is a site ran by a black man who writes about all things black and encourages black unity, but couldn’t get none for the sisters. Very telling it really brought it home for me.

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  24. Social Butterfly
    Sep 25, 2014 @ 09:05:12

    It’s so funny……I have had these thoughts for years! Great post!
    1. BW need to support BW i.e. support our businesses, stop hating on each other, etc.
    2. Do not support people/companies who de-value, disrespect & defile BW i.e. Lil’ Wayne
    3. Support/Volunteer with organizations that empower BW i.e. NCBW, Black Girls Rock, The Black Woman Think Tank
    4. Use the “sista soldier” boots for BW causes ONLY

    This could be a great opportunity for the world to see BW can command respect & support each other.

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  25. notyourtoken
    Dec 08, 2014 @ 14:19:37

    Reblogged this on notyourtoken.

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  26. Cory
    Dec 10, 2014 @ 05:46:51

    Thank you!!! Wanted to add two other cases: right here in phoenix Michelle Cuseaux a mentally ill woman who charged cops with a hammer. Shot dead. Police were there to escort her to a mental hospital by court order. It was all over the local news but not one major news station. Not ONE black website covered it. No national protests. This was just months ago. 2-yr old girl shot in front of her father because the punk wanted her death to be the last thing dad saw. ZERO protests. But then black men and boys may have been secretly pleased she died, rather than mature into yet another otherwise-useless mule-like black ho.

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