THIS IS WHY YOU NEED TO STOP CAPING FOR OTHERS

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mckinney+tx+pool+party&tbm=nws

Well if you have an internet connection, you wouldn’t have been able to miss the internet breaking from the story out of McKinney Texas in which ONCE AGAIN rogue psycho police officers misuse and abuse their power and take it out on Black teens – while a 110 pound bikini clad 14 year old Black girl gets manhandled, tossed to the ground, has her face plastered to the dirt/grass, hair pulled, and is subsequently SAT ON with an officer knees on her back all because she??? I’m not sure what she did. I guess being a young Black teenage girl is enough to get you literally brutalized by cops these days.

Look I’m gonna get right to it. This has been said time and time again by numerous enlightened BW bloggers. Well I’m going to say it again – while BW are all over social media caping and freedom fighting for the rights of rich celebrity White men who are turning themselves into women, and BM who wouldn’t spit on you if you caught fire there are very real issues affecting our young women that we need to be LASER FOCUSED on because it could be YOU or any loved one in the same situation in McKinney Texas amongst other places where BW are flung around like rag dolls by the police for simply being Black.

I don’t have time for Respectability Politics anymore in these cases. It is clear that you do not have to do much to be assaulted by cops these days if you are Black. And it’s NOT JUST BLACK MALES as we can see. All I can tell you once again is if you are a Black woman, simply do what police say to avoid getting brutalized. It can take you almost doing NOTHING but simply asking about your rights for them to react in savage manner these days.

If you feel your rights have been violated save it for later and get an attorney to file a complaint against the officer and police unit. Until America deals with this abhorrent police issue of abuse against Black women and Blacks this is the recommended ways in which to respond to obvious racist cops looking to use any reason to use force against you.

This is where I cannot understand why Black parents are not talking to their teens about how to act in these situations today! I mean at some point we need to teach our children AND GIRLS ESPECILALY to walk away and stop trying to reason with these maniacs. That is what they are. UNHINGED racist maniacs who see you as sub-human and have no regard for your well-being. SO why do young Black girls continue to think they can reason with these police officers who are already acting in an unhinged manner is simply because Black parents are NOT teaching their children how to react in these situations to avoid being brutalized.

Back to the topic….

If BW’s priorities had been straight the last couple of decades I’d highly doubt any police officer would be ready and willing to brutally assault our young girls so readily (even while being filmed). You will never see a young teenage White girl being treated this way because their COMMINITIES and mothers and fathers make sure the world knows how cherished they are! AND they will fight to the deaths for justice God Forbd any of their young teenage daughters be treated as this young girl had been by anyone including but not limited to police officers.

Yeah yeah I know BW can hang up the community and father calvary thing. But if BW had put as much effort onto making a statement that we value our lives and the lives of our daughters highly, people including police officers would be very careful about how they handled us because they know there would be hell to pay.

This is not to say there would not be cases of brutality against Black women and girls because clearly something is in the water causing all these racist psycho maniacs to join police forces across the country. But the statement would be clear that our young girls are to be handled and treated as such.

Until more and more BW GET IT, we will continue to be the literal punching bags in this country by everyone.

STOP CAPING for everyone else! It’s not going to get you any brownie points with the masses as a BW. It isn’t going to shift you to the top of the hierarchy by trying to prove you are down to fight for everyone’s causes. All it does is continue to make you look like society’s DOORMAT who will run and help any and everyone while your own backyard is in shambles.

If you see society jumping on a bandwagon of a PRIVLEDGED person who doesn’t need your help, support then JUST BE QUIET. You do not have to say anything. Silence is best. Let others fight their own damn battles for once because we Black women have a LOT of work to do to continue to make sure our civil rights as WOMEN and Black WOMEN are continuously improving.

It will not improve if you are fighting everyone else’s battles and trying to be “likable” to the masses by jumping on bandwagons that aint going to benefit you in any way whatsoever.

This McKinney case is YET another reminder that BW do not have the time to spend messing around in other more highly privileged people’s stuff. We have our own stuff to fix.

Please contact the McKinney police dept. and express your outrage at this incident.

I won’t hold my breathe to wait and see if any marches happen for this young girl, but I will say that I have seen AMPLE outrage from all genders and races in regards to this incident affecting the young girl.

This is a good sign at least that others are finally getting it. It’s getting to the point where I believe even some White people fear that they will be next and are calling for justice in these cases. They have reason to fear because eventually the police will move onto brutalizing them and their children if this country does not come together and fight this cancer that is POLICE BRUTALITY AND MISCONDUCT these days.

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  1. Neecy
    Jun 07, 2015 @ 22:09:57

    See this is exactly what I mean. The minute a black girl gets mishandled by police you have silly BW arguing whether or not the kids really lived there or not. COMPLETELY overlooking the fact that the outrage is in the officers MISCONDUCTS in handling an unarmed teenage girl who was actually walking away when he grabbed her. And all some BW can ask and argue about is whether they lived there and if not they violated HOA – (excuse my French – but ) WHAT THE FUCK does that have to do with the officers CONDUCT towards the black girl?

    Once again BW have to be the perfect victim for some folks to just for once say shit isn’t right in how we are treated.

    Notice these same arguments never come fROM THESE SAME WOMEN when BM are brutalized. There is never any deflecting on what the “BM shouldn’t have been doing”.

    Do you think any white person would be arguing over the other facts (which are still unknown) on whether the kids lived there or. To once seeing an officer misuse his power and take it out on a young teenage white girl WALKING AWAY? NO!

    I don’t give a SHIT if someone violated HOA or whethe they lived there. The police should have been able to deal with that issue in a manner where unarmed teenage girl who was WALKING AWAY was not thrown to the ground and manhandled!

    That is the issue here. The MISCONDUCTS on a young unarmed teenage girl!

    I’m sure the HOA and all applicable patprtied will deal with who was and wasn’t supposed to be there. The outrage is why the police officer used such UNCESSARY force on a young girl.

    UGH! Some BW will never get it.

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    • Spinster
      Jun 08, 2015 @ 21:05:40

      Yep. All day, every day, and it don’t stop. 😐

      “Once again BW have to be the perfect victim for some folks to just for once say shit isn’t right in how we are treated.

      Notice these same arguments never come fROM THESE SAME WOMEN when BM are brutalized. There is never any deflecting on what the “BM shouldn’t have been doing”.”

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    • neurochick
      Jun 09, 2015 @ 12:33:08

      I think people don’t understand what happened. There are two separate issues. One, the police being there. Maybe one of the people who lived in that area called the police, maybe the party was getting out of hand, it happens and police are called, even in mostly white suburbs, when parties get out of hand. That is one issue.

      The other issue is about the use of force and this is what’s troubling. There’s no way that a police officer would have sat on a young white girl in a swimsuit. Just the image of this man, manhandling a young teen in a bikini makes me ill, because it’s getting very close to molestation IMO. The problem for me is that I don’t think this extreme force would happen with white children.

      What should have happened is that the police told them to go home, or else everybody goes down to the station and we call your parents. Years ago the police were taught to resolve conflicts, but today too many of them jump right in the middle of the conflict.

      Now, when people tell me that the children should not have been there, I agree with them, no they shouldn’t have been there BUT, what the kids were doing was minor compared to the police response. That’s what is troubling. The police response. I mean what is the reason for a grown man to sit on a young girl wearing a bikini. I mean get real.

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  2. itsmeak
    Jun 07, 2015 @ 23:43:24

    I agree

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  3. LovelyAvis
    Jun 08, 2015 @ 00:46:52

    Right! This is horrible and makes me so angry. Also, for some black women to not have enough concern for a 15 year old being handled in that way (whether she was supposed to be there or not) is just beyond me, smh.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 08, 2015 @ 08:13:13

      Girl I was on Bougie Black girls Facebook and reading a couple comments from some of thenBW on there going on about the HOA and if they were supposed to be there had me fuming! CLEARLY kids running around in bikinis says that obviously they were invited to a swim party.

      The obtuseness of some BW never ceases to amaze me.

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    • neurochick
      Jun 09, 2015 @ 12:36:45

      See, even if the girl wasn’t supposed to be there doesn’t matter. What is troubling is the response of the police.

      People are focusing on the wrong thing. They’re focusing on the pool party, they’re saying “there were too many kids there.” I’m like, “okay, you may be right. Let’s say you’re 100% right and those kids should not have been there.” But does that give a police officer the right to manhandle a young girl? A girl walking away from him?

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      • Neecy
        Jun 09, 2015 @ 22:17:45

        Exactly!

        I am sick of other BW especially creating these ideas that because of how BW are perceived that its justifying the physical manhandling and abuse. I have read one too many comments like this and its dangeroous. This is not to say BW certainly do not have a job to do in terms of improving our image. BW can talk about collective improvement without literally justifying the actions of crazies who don’t care whether we are acting like submissive harpies or ghetto trash. That also doesn’t mean that because BW have “bad attitudes” or “mouthy” that we deserve to be physically assualted by psycho cops.

        You had one girl on there literally say BW created this mess. LOL! Unbelivable. no the racists created their mess NOT mouthy or masculine acting BW.

        Its always “if BW did this and that”. Same ole story. Its always on BW to change b t never anyone else. BW can be the most perfect acting specimens and we would still be kicked upon by society because its set up that way and we have NO SOCIAL POWER.

        If the attacks on michelle Obama and Serena Williams nad other BW who are acting accordinlgy don’t prove this i don’t know what will. Serena Williams a non ghetto classy acting very talented spoerts figure can’t even catch a friggin break. Neither can the damn President’s wife. What does that tell you. No matter how well BW act there will alway sbe crazies, racists and idiots who DO NOT CARE and will treat us all the same.

        Its never just as simple as a racist doesn’t give a shit if you are on your best behavior or not. if they have issues with Black people they will find an excuse to assualt or mistreat them. We need to nip this police brutality nonsense in the bud.

        Blaming BW for a crazy officers behavior is utterly disgusting!

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        • Neecy
          Jun 09, 2015 @ 22:44:39

          Also,

          Before we get comfy in jumping on that “BW made thier own beds, BW are too mouthy” train just remember that these are the same excuses and reasons being given for why Black girls are expelled and suspended from school greater than any other group of girls. Because of PERCEPTIONS. That is eactly what the article stated that I read that covered this issue of young Black girls as young as pre school being more likely expelled and sent to the principals office because they are “PERCEIVED” to be more aggressive than anyone else.

          yeah does that mean we have to take a look and improve on how our young girls are raised? ABSOLUTELY, but that does not give an excuse to JUSTIFY the actions of adults who cannot do thier jobs accordingly and treat people fairly.

          I am of the belief that BW and girls needs to have thier own communities and schools and everything. That will never happen and its just me fantacizing at this point, but that is clearly the only way we will ever get any fkng peace.

          No one ever looks at the circumstances in which many Back girls come from that make them a bit more hardened than maybe a typical NOn Black gil. Its always just BW have a problem and we have justification to treat them accordingly.

          Sorry not going to jump on that slippery slope. NOPE!

          BW can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can improve our collective image and also hold others acocuntable for using their PERCEPTIONS to mistreat and abuse us unfairly.

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          • neurochick
            Jun 10, 2015 @ 05:29:12

            Correct Neecy, the problem is PERCEPTION, not reality. Black girls are “perceived” to be more aggressive, so they are suspended more. But the key word is perception. If two little girls are doing the same thing, and I say the actions of the black girl are worse; that says more about ME than it does about the girl.

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            • Neecy
              Jun 10, 2015 @ 13:58:37

              YEP. And at this point I’m not buying the idea that all BW and girls that people deal with everyday are these loud mouth obnoxious mouthy ones. There are a lot of normal sane acting BW living, working and studying amongst different peopLe who are simp,y working and trying to get through life in the best way possible with minimal drama like everyone else.

              It’s a lot easier to claim an easier target is a certain way as to justify mistreatment.

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  4. Brenda55
    Jun 08, 2015 @ 05:31:39

    Glad to see you back posting. Excellent article. Again there is no Calvary coming. Black women have got to have each other’s back. Put the cape on fir us and leave others to fend for themselves.

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  5. Neecy
    Jun 08, 2015 @ 08:11:14

    For those BW more concerned about whether they “should have been there In the first place and NEED PROOF” here is a statement from the ACLU on EXACTLY what the real issue is here.

    http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/collin-county/2015/06/07/mckinney-officer-on-leave-after-video-of-disturbance/28643625/

    The American Civil Liberties Union of Texas released a statement Sunday evening, calling for McKinney police to release the entire incident report and 911 call recording. The ACLU statement references the officer pulling his gun as a hostile and unnecessary tactic.

    The statement read in part:

    “While we don’t know all the facts about the party, the crowd, or whether a fight broke out, what we do know is that the police response, as seen on the video, appears to be a textbook case of overuse of force. A well-trained police department would have responded more cautiously, with less hostility, and using sophisticated crowd control methods that favor de-escalation not escalation. Without question, guns were not needed and in fact risked turning a group of partying teenagers into a violent encounter that could have turned deadly.

    “Police departments are intended to be organizations that protect and serve their constituents. But increasingly in this country we have two kinds of policing and we saw both in this incident: protecting and serving white communities and criminalizing and controlling black communities.

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  6. Formavitae
    Jun 09, 2015 @ 08:32:32

    THIS IS A MESS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

    I watched a couple of news videos and interviews about this and had several thoughts (in no particular order):

    1. It’s sad and disappointing to see young black girls being manhandled like this.

    2. I’m glad I don’t live there, and I’m glad it ain’t me.

    3. I don’t get what blacks don’t understand about “not being wanted” and why it’s so important for them to go/be places they AREN’T wanted. (I’ll get back to this later.)

    4. A few things I noted the girl and her father said during the interview:
    A. The cop(s) came around saying only two people were allowed to come to the pool per pass. The girl/her father/ associates started asking the cop(s) if the white visitors were asked the same thing (because they don’t believe that policy has ever been enforced).
    B. There were black males without passes who were trying to gain entry/jumping over the fence and saying they were with the girl’s party, even though the girl/her family denied knowing the guys.
    C. The black/Hispanic kids were cursing at the cop(s) and telling them to “Shut up”, because the cop(s) also yelled things at them.
    D. The girl kept yelling, “Freedom of speech,” to the cop(s), even as they tried to control her behavior.

    Ok…Let’s be real.

    A. Cops have legal authority, legal weapons, and (initially) the law on their side to do the following: approach you, without your request; enter your “space” to an extent, if they feel you are “breaking the law/rules”; give certain orders and expect compliance; ARREST you, for not submitting; respond to complaints from “concerned citizens”; so-called “keep the peace”, etc.

    B. Blacks ARE NOT a “protected group” in American society (or ANY society, really). So, to act like you have the same social protections as a privileged class makes absolutely NO SENSE.

    C. There’s a good chance they would have done the same to a group of WHITES, if the whites were considered “P.W.T.”

    D. Why do blacks act like they don’t understand that “What works for ‘THEM’ don’t work for ‘US'”?

    5. The image put out by AAs of black women/girls being “tough”, “loud-mouthed”, “non-feminine”, “azz-kickers” IS NOT helping them secure any protections, courtesies, or considerations in society. Furthermore, online videos of girls jumping/attacking people, cursing out strangers, and joining black boys in attacking innocents is doing EXTREME DAMAGE to the concept of black females as having “vulnerability”.

    6. Back to a previous thought. If blacks wanted, they could have THEIR OWN community pools, party houses, “good neighborhoods”, etc., so that they could socialize in a more protected environment (though history shows that would stop external jealousies or assaults–but, blacks have more resources today to secure their own protections). UNFORTUNATELY, there would be blacks who would attempt to exploit, rob, destroy an black communities that existed–just as those LYIN’ FOOLS created additional problems for this family trying to have their own pool party.

    7. I hope the ACLU DOES pursue this incident on an aggressive level. Blacks need the support of others who have political CLOUT, since we’ve squandered away our own.

    8. UNFORTUNATELY, blacks have left themselves at the mercy of others. Others’ patience, others’ resources, others’ infrastructure, others’ willingness to see us as equal human beings, others’ protection…the list goes on and on. It doesn’t HAVE to be this way. But, since AAs have decided to focus on investing in and valuing others more than their own selves, THIS IS THEIR PLIGHT.

    9. I don’t know what else to say. Words fail me.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 09, 2015 @ 22:04:59

      Formative,

      I completely get what you are saying and agree. HOWEVER, like Neurochik said, there are two separate issues here (1) Police brutality (2) who belonged where.

      Clearly these kids (maybe not all but most) were invited to a pool party. The girl who threw the party has confirmed that she in fact does live in the area and did invite people.

      If in fact the Black kids were acting up, I am not opposed to the police coming in and handling the situation and removing them from the premises. But the issue here is HOW one police officer conducted himself. PERIOD. No one is arguing that unruly kids uninvited should not be thrown out by cops or questioned. But cops need to be better trained how to deal with citizens in these types of situations.

      I am not here to argue that Black people don’t have some serious cleaning up to do in terms of our dysfunction. But I’m also not going to allow Black people’s dysfunction cause me to overlook and not be concerned when rogue psycho police officers are attacking and killing our young girls.

      We can look and deal with both issues. Just like Black people have dysfunctional problems clearly the police force also has a lot of dysfunctional cops who are abusing their power and need to be stopped.

      If we are going to make a case that police treat “our girls” the way they do because Black girls/women are PERCEIVED to be lacking in vulnerability because of their mouthiness, then what are we saying?

      If Black restaurant patrons are “PERCEIVED” to be annoying non tippers does that mean that the servers have a right to give the patrons bad service?

      NO. That servers job is to treat all patrons fairly and equally with top notch service REGARDLESS of a particular sector of people’s common behaviors. That is what they are hired to do for the restaurant. Not pick and choose which types of customers deserve better service based on the perception that they are cheap tippers who run you ragged. And yes this is the perception of AA’s in the restaurant business in which I worked for many years. At the end of the day, I don’t care how annoying the patrons are YOU HAVE A JOB TO DO AS A PROFESSIONAL and if you cannot act accordingly then you do not need to work in the public sector dealing with various people.

      Bw’s “mouths and attitudes” are not CRIMES! I am so over people using this as an excuse to physically abuse and mishandle Black women and girls. They may be annoying as hell and disrupting in some manners but it is not CAUSE for manhandling and physically abusing and assaulting Black women. We need to stop saying this. Because once we start justifying people’s perceptions as a “reason” they do certain things to us, then we have a serious problem and are climbing up a slipper slope.

      When you have a job, your job is to act accordingly and professionally despite what you PERCEPTIONS are of a particular group. And the onus is on the police officer to conduct him/herself in a professional manner as to not escalate things.

      It is also up to Black parents to start having serious discussion with their Black children about how they should be acting when around these police officers today.

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      • Formavitae
        Jun 09, 2015 @ 23:12:05

        Neecy,

        I don’t disagree with you. POLICE BRUTALITY IS WRONG! I’m not trying to say, “Well, if you hadn’t…” though it may sound that way. What I’m talking about is the “IDEALISTIC” view of law enforcement and the “REALISTIC” view of law enforcement.

        NO. Police shouldn’t be violent, abusive, prejudiced, racist, unfair, unjust, instigators, liars, cheats, etc. YES. Police SHOULD be fair, reasonable, even-tempered, just, impartial, honest, law-abiding, considerate, etc.

        There is an ideal standard for the role of police officer, a “public SERVANT”. However, INDIVIDUAL HUMANS take these positions and bring all of their baggage with them, and that it influences their practice. The constitution and other laws set an ideal standard for rights, expectations, protections for citizens, and boundaries/principles of government. But, INDIVIDUAL HUMANS are responsible for applying, upholding, and respecting these laws. So, the “ideal” as written in the books is never achieved.

        I just think blacks need to stop acting “obtuse” about these matters.

        As I stated above, the ROLE of “police officer” comes with certain legal rights, protections, and liberties not automatically granted to citizens not holding that office. So, FLAWED individuals in that role have some legal rights others DON’T have. And, when interacting with those individuals, you need to acknowledge the power differential and select your responses ACCORDINGLY.

        We aren’t disagreeing. I’m just not emphasizing the WRONGNESS of the police officers actions, because I feel it is obvious and goes without saying. However, I feel blacks need to learn/focus on how to “insulate” themselves from such potential abuses. NO. As citizens of the United States we shouldn’t HAVE to deal with unjust treatment. But, again, that’s being “idealistic” rather than “being REAL”.

        I’m not going to be more wordy than I’ve already been, but blacks not focusing on self-care, self-advancement, and self-protection via non-destructive means has them being “picked off” one by one in various situations. UNFORTUNATELY, opportunities for blacks to be “picked off” exist on a daily basis. And, while police brutality/abuse needs to be addressed WITHOUT QUESTION, it still does not eliminate those opportunities that exist in the interim. Blacks need to GET SMART, so they can eliminate/avert some of those opportunities by GOOD DECISION-MAKING. That’s what I’m advocating.

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        • Neecy
          Jun 10, 2015 @ 00:58:17

          I completely agree Formative. However, we have to disagree on the police part. While what you say is absolutley correct that police have cetain authroties (and for good reason), its not IDEAL thinking to EXPECT police officers to act and treat the public citizens with dignity and respect as much as possible – even when those citizens may not always be acting in a civilized manner.

          Clearly any officer entering the force is there because there are plenty of non law abiding citizens who need to be held accountable for thier actions and they (police officers) are there to enforce and uphold the law in the best and safest way they can as officers.

          We still have rights as citizens and THAT IS THE LAW. ANy officer who does not respect the rights of citizens IS BREAKING THE LAW. Thus why you can sue and take police officers, the city and juristicitons to court for VIOLATING your civil rights and in some cases officers can be fired, fined and even JAILED for violating these rights.

          Police officers are apart government / city / state agencies. that means the citizens taxes go towards PAYING for police officers AND paying off the settlements from officers who are sued for violating people’s rights. If my taxes are contributing towards the police force then you better de damn sure I am getting treated like a human being and not an animal by the police who are PAID FOR by the public with our TAXES.

          Every working citizen has a right to DEMAND to be treated with diginity and respect by employed police officers. that is not IDEAL thinking that is the LAW. It is a RIGHT to expect to be treated in a civilizd manner by police officers because you still have RIGHTS as a citizen! When an officer vioates this, you have a right to pursue legal action.

          Ideal thinking is expecting others to like you and not be prejudiced. It is not ideal thinking to DEMAND that the “PEACE” officers EMPLOYED by the city and STATE serve and protect communities and people and not terrorize, batter, abuse and mistreat them regardless of their race.

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          • Formavitae
            Jun 10, 2015 @ 02:05:32

            Necey,

            You are CORRECT. It is NOT “ideal” thinking to expect police officers uphold the law and not abuse their powers. However, in my opinion, IT IS “ideal” thinking to believe you are going to get that in every situation. The reason I felt this situation was full of “idealism” versus “realism” is because of several factors: 1) They thought they could challenge the police officer’s authority by questioning (on the scene) whether the same questions were being posed to the whites. 2) They thought they could “curse” at the police officer and tell him to “shut up”, with no negative response from the officer. 3) They thought they could yell “Freedom of speech” and have the officer back down from targeting them. That type of behavior/challenge DOES NOT WORK for blacks.

            If *I* were in a situation in which I felt a police officer was treating me unjustly, I would try to exit/end the situation in as peaceful a manner as possible, and secure an attorney to represent me AFTER I extracted myself from a situation in which I may sustain physical harm. I’m not interested in getting “cracked upside the head”. There’s no guarantee I WON’T be. But, my strategy is to work for my rights and challenge opposition from behind a shelter of safety.

            I think a lot of blacks, particularly younger blacks, see white college kids doing things like protesting, challenging police, yelling, etc., and think they can automatically do the same things. Hey. We live in America, right? This IS a “free” country? But, the reality is that while those middle, upper middle, upper, wealthy white kids get to practice civil disobedience with few to any repercussions, BLACK kids will probably end up beaten or SHOT, REGARDLESS of class.

            YES. This disparity IS WRONG. But, blacks have not done anything to secure their population from abuse or to secure their ability to exercise their rights as equal citizens. THEY FAIL to make this a priority. So, everything ends up being reactive and a “protest” against wrongdoing.

            I HOPE this officer is appropriately dealt with/loses his job. I hope police brutality DOES become more of a public discussion and gets addressed. However, once again, blacks are dependent upon OTHERS caring about them and continuing to see their abuse as a “cause celebre”. What happens if/when the momentum/interest fizzles out? Blacks have not organized themselves/their resources to force ANYONE’S hand in this society. So, if we lose the outside support we need to pressure these officers to “do right”, what then?

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            • Neecy
              Jun 10, 2015 @ 13:55:15

              Well the officer did resign.

              But you are right, Blacks are in deep doo doo becuse we refuse to deal with obvious dysfunction that makes us vulnerable and easy targets. It sickening to watch but I really don’t know what it is going to take anymore for blacks to get that were digging ourselves into a deeper grave by not addressing our dysfunctions as a people.

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      • Formavitae
        Jun 10, 2015 @ 00:09:37

        I know I said I was going to be less “wordy”, but there was something else I wanted to bring up.

        I, for one, DO believe a police officer would slam a 14 y.o. white girl to the ground…IF…she was considered “P.W.T.” (OR, if she was a “druggie”). In that case, it depends on the context. If it’s P.W.T. versus blacks, probably not. But, if it’s PWT versus whites with money, ABSOLUTELY.

        If you haven’t noticed, whites **HATE** PWT. They think they are “garbage” to be discarded and thrown away (unless a little girl gets kidnapped and raped, or something). Hence the term “poor”…”white”….”TRASH”. Duh? Anyone???

        And, Asians, as a group, are even LESS tolerant of “undesirables”. Some of those cultures stone people to death, burn them alive, for things WE wouldn’t even consider minor “infractions”. Asians have NO PROBLEM ostracizing and marginalizing those they consider “unacceptable”.

        Latin American governments also have no problems ignoring/neglecting those “unwanted” by society.

        The general “norm” around the world is to ostracize and banish the unwanted. And, people in society typically “look away”, when they are abused. DEFINITELY, in countries “of color”. So, this young girl getting her braids yanked and being thrown to the ground is minor, compared to what could have happened to her in other places. I’m not negating the wrongness of the situation.

        I think a big problem is “black” becoming synonymous with “undesirable” in a different context than it was historically. In the past, it was simply because you looked different, history of slavery, etc. However, many Negroes were considered respectable, productive, and God-fearing. Now, many blacks are viewed as “undesirable” because they are identified with unlawfulness, destruction, being a public “nuisance”. And, that is problematic for the ENTIRE GROUP. Your “image” matters because you don’t want to lose public empathy or sympathy. Those outside of your group feel no obligation to “identify” with you. They can either care about your plight. Or not. Once they stop caring, they’ll “look away” too.

        Another example to show that this isn’t STRICTLY about “color”.

        My best friend is Muslim. And, she has another female friend who is Muslim. The girl is very “white” looking. She has straight hair, fair skin, and blue/green eyes. Anyway, after 9/11, she either got pulled over by the cops in her car or stopped on the side of the road for some reason and a cop came by. I can’t remember the exact details. Anyway, the cop ripped her hijab off her head. And, the girl hadn’t done anything aggressive towards the officer. Still, that’s what this “white” girl went through.

        WE DO need to take a stand against police brutality. However, once a group becomes an “undesirable”, society will often cease to see certain actions as “police brutality” and will begin to see them as a “public service/necessity”.

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        • Neecy
          Jun 10, 2015 @ 01:14:15

          I agree that Black people have a problem with disassociating from the undesirables in our collective. But could that be because of our history as a people and the REALITY that we are hardly ever judged as INDIVIDUALS but constanly as a group either way?

          Not justifying this because clearly this is not a good strategy when you are in a hostile and racist society with little to no power to begin with. It would make more sense to be on your best behavior vs. acting a fool when the odds are alredy stacked against you. And I COMPLETEY ADVOCATE for any intelligent BW to do so if they plan on having a better quality of life – to dissassociate from the undesirables at all costs.

          But I am just asking isn’t there are *REASON* Blacks would be more likely to be this way vs. Asians and Whites etc. who typically run the show in thier perpective countries? Its a lot easier to do certain things when you RUN things and call the shots. But wouldn;t it be more likely that a powerless group who is constantly at the mercy of those in power would be less likely to dissacioate from the “undesirables” especially if they feel part of the problem of the undesirables in the group is a root of racism?

          Whether this is right or wrong thinking (I say its ignorant victim thinking) but face it, a lot of Blacks stick by the undesirables because deep down they feel the cause for Blacks plights is deeply rooted in racism. Like I said, that may be ignorant thinking to you or myself, but its reality for a lot of Blacks.

          What kinds of excuses or justificaitons would WHites or Asians have for sticking with and by thier undesirables when they do not have the same experiences as being powerless as a people nad at the mercy of other more powerful dominant groups? NONE! My theory is, If WHites or Asians stuck by thier undesirables they’d not be in power for very long. Blacks have little to not power worldwide, so the loss is much less for sticking by undesirables since many Blacks feel that simply being Black – be you good or bad – still doesn’t make you immune from racism and hostility and discrimination. many Blacks do feel that it doesn’t matter if you are decent acting or a criminal that at the end of the day we are all bieng judged in the same manner. In some cases this may be very true and so it is clear to me why Blakcs are more likely to engage in that behavior vs. Whites or Asians.

          like I said, it may not make sense to you or I, but I clearly understand that the root of a lot of Blacks sticking by the crazies in our group has a lot to do with the feeling of “it doesn’t matter, I’m Black and this world is already stacked against me regardless whether I’m doing good or bad”.

          With a White person associating with PWT for them can be seen as more of an individual charcter flaw that can affect them based on SIMPLY making a bad choice in who they are sticking by. IOW’s they can always escape hat feeling that “they’re all in this together” when reality is they can and are often judged as INDIVIDUALS while Blacks are others typically aren’t.

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          • Neecy
            Jun 10, 2015 @ 01:36:53

            I also do not believe even PWT would experience the same level of brutalization as the average Black person does. NOT.AT.ALL!

            This shows in the justice system as well. Blacks are always more likely to serve more time, get harsher sentences and such than even the worse White criminals.

            This country still has a very serious race problem and that’s just how it is. The less powerful your group, the easier it is to committ infractions against them.

            All i can say is BW can keep on keeping on in spite of. Try to avoid the law at all costs and when faced with the law be very aware that a simple refusal or mouthing off can get you body slammed and charged. Not worth it.

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            • Formavitae
              Jun 10, 2015 @ 02:22:16

              Neecy,

              I’ve seen videos online of PWT also getting beaten and knocked around by white police officers. I’ve also read news stories about them being shot/killed by police. So, I guess that influences my opinion.

              I understand where you’re coming from.

              The fact of the matter is that THE WORLD has a serious “race problem”. It’s NEVER going away. That’s something I’ve personally come to accept. However, many people are continuing to thrive in spite of prejudice.

              I agree with your assessment of blacks embracing their “undesirables” because of the history of black/white relations in this country. However, we are embracing these persons to our own PERIL. And, many of these people are LITERALLY KILLING us. Blacks need to learn how to cut off the dead weight, because they are dependent upon others for a certain measure of “security” in this society.

              As I said before, this is a mess all around. Blacks are going to have to be wiser in their dealings with cops and other persons of authority, because many of them have no problem with “ACTING FIRST and explaining later”.

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  7. Pumpkin
    Jun 09, 2015 @ 18:17:03

    Neecy,

    you didn’t notice the two black males in the video who were trying to defend the black teen girl and had a GUN turned on them?? It looks like they were defending her to me…I don’t get this post.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 09, 2015 @ 22:06:03

      PUMPKIN,

      Please with the Black man caping. I have no interest in focusing on the .5% of BM who come to the aid of Black women – okay. Just STOP it because i’m not going down that “but there are still good Bm road”.

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  8. Pumpkin
    Jun 09, 2015 @ 18:19:59

    “You will never see a young teenage White girl being treated this way because their COMMINITIES and mothers and fathers make sure the world knows how cherished they are!”

    – i agree, but you have to call it what it is, the two black males were CLEARLY defending the teenage black girl.

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  9. Nicole Henderson
    Jun 09, 2015 @ 21:34:23

    Exactly Neecy! I put two youtube videos of something relating to black parenting in these instances. You took the words right out of my mouth. The issue is the black men are coddled and black parents are not preparing their children to deal with these situations and reality so the black kids end up failing. Its important for parents to teach their children early to submit and fear police officers because their life is in their hands.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 09, 2015 @ 22:22:17

      YES. Black parents are not teaching thier kids the proper ways in which to deal with police these days which is the other half of the problem.

      We already know they are out for our blood, so why Black women continue to try to talk, reason, argue, and question some of these maniancs is beyond me.

      Hopefully more discussions about this will be happening in Black households now that we are seeing that there are a lot of unhinged psycho cops looking for any reason to assualt Blacks.

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  10. Gina
    Jun 09, 2015 @ 23:53:28

    –I feel blacks need to learn/focus on how to “insulate” themselves from such potential abuses–

    Insulate how? Where? They weren’t living in “blackistan”. From all the available reports, they lived in a middle class (albeit predominantly white) neighborhood. It does have issues with discrimination, but nearly all predominantly white, middle class and up neighborhoods do. So where is the insulation? At best you could say they should have left when more than a certain number of black people showed up but where do you draw the line?

    There is no insulation. There are ways to reduce the risk, but not to insulate. Insulation implies there are safe havens. They don’t exist.

    —why Black women continue to try to talk, reason, argue, and question some of these maniancs is beyond me.—

    Because it’s different when you’re in the situation. I was once pulled over in a traffic stop and absolutely refused to get out of my vehicle. It was on a side street and I wasn’t “out of pocket”, but I refused. The officer eventually had to call for backup, no one had to force me out of my car, but there was no way I was getting out of my car with just me and that one officer.

    Nothing prepares you for being in the moment. Looking back, that probably wasn’t the wisest decision, but when you’re in the moment, you have to make a lot of very quick decisions super fast. The first thing I did was start the recording on my phone and put it out of plain sight. Other than that, every other decision had to be made on the fly. It’s SO EASY to say how someone should have responded when you’re viewing a video, it’s a completely different thing when you’re in the moment.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 10, 2015 @ 01:31:46

      @ Gina,

      And this is the unfortunate situation BW find themselves in. Because in many cases officers can and DO use your refusal to do something (even when you are calm and non threatening and within your right to refuse) as an excuse to use force against you. Consider yourself LUCKY, because the wrong officer could have and would have pulled you out the car by force and then CHARGED YOU with soem bogus charge like they did the Blakc female professer at Arizona State University.

      Just look at what happened to the 8 month pregnant BW at an elementary school in Barstow CA who refused to tell the police officers her name. She was not being mouthy or beliggerate. She simply stated she wanted to find out her rights FIRST (by making a phone call to a relative) before releasing that information. She questioned why teh White lady was not being held or harrassed (she and a White lady got into a small confrontation and she the Black lady was PURSUED). What happened, She got thrown to the ground on her 8month pregnant belly (after repeatedly telling the officer she was preggers), cuffed and then told to stand up on her own. All because she didn’t give them her name.

      So consider yourself lucky that you didn’t get manhandled for your refusal to co-operate with the officer even though it was well within your rights to be scared and concerned.

      The point I was making is – it doesn’t matter anymore. Dealing with police these days is like dealing with a box of chocolates. You don’t know what you’re going to get so assume the worse and just try to avoid being brutalized for something minor incident because the cop is a psycho with a racist chip on his shoulders.

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      • Gina
        Jun 11, 2015 @ 10:26:21

        I am very well aware of what could have happened. The point still remains that it’s easy to criticize how someone responds to a situation you’re not in. When someone is actually in that situation, they have to process too many scenarios too quickly, all while under the threat of violence. You stated that you don’t understand why black women try to reason with these maniacs and I simply provided the response that looking at a situation and being in a situation are completely different things and just because you BELIEVE you will respond a certain way to a situation doesn’t mean that you WILL when the threat is imminent. I provided my own example to illustrate.

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        • Neecy
          Jun 11, 2015 @ 21:52:05

          I understand that. MY POINT WAS it doesn’t matter anymore! You can react a certain way in a situation In the heat of the moment and RISK getting arrested and assaulted by the cops or you can simply have a one rule of being non confrontational no matter what since you do not know what kind of cop(s) you will be dealing with.

          When I get pulled over for minor infractions I already have it in my head to be non confrontational since I am aware nowadays *SOME* cops can be lunatics.

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    • Formavitae
      Jun 10, 2015 @ 01:43:13

      Gina,

      I think the way blacks can “insulate” themselves is by developing THEIR OWN communities. But, that ISN’T going to happen. And, if efforts are made, there are too many fools willing to come mess things up. I don’t think surrounding yourself with people who don’t want you around is a form of protection but actually “setting yourself up” for attack. As I stated, blacks aren’t willing to do what it takes to preserve themselves and minimize their vulnerabilities to others. So, they will continue to be “picked off”.

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      • Neecy
        Jun 10, 2015 @ 01:49:53

        I agree Formative.

        Its sad b/c The only people really suffering are the Blacks like us who are literally stuck in the middle.

        If more of our kind created and built seperate communiites for the likes of ourselves, THIS would be most ideal. But as you said, that’s just a fantasy at this point. It can’t happen on a larger scale.

        Who knows maybe a miracle will happen and Blacks will finally “get it” once things get really bad and start mobilizing and getting our acts together. But I won’t hold my breath.

        There are still maybe a few places in the country where there are middle upper class Black NEIGHBORHOODS that are safe and great communiites, its just not enough. In L.A they have a couple of areas, but they are starting to be taken over by Mexicans and such.

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        • Formavitae
          Jun 10, 2015 @ 02:28:41

          These types of thriving communities will never exist because BM are not happy living with only themselves/their own people. Their sense of “importance/value” comes from their physical interactions with others.

          Those of us in the middle “suffer”, unless we decide to go our own separate way–which generally means having our children/descendants become “someone else”. IT’S SAD. But, it’s gotten to that point because blacks have no self-love.

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          • Neecy
            Jun 10, 2015 @ 03:05:02

            YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD. Once the men decide they don’t have a desire to uplift and uphold the race and only feel worthy in another man’s backyard – ISS A WRAP!

            I still do like to dream that BW of our kind can still build or own thriving communities. I guess the Intentional communities that Evia spoke of was really the only possibility of that happening.

            BW who are enlightened are almost like foster kids who have to kind of find their own way and allies. It’s a very strange place to be in this type of world where other cultures and people seek to keep their women and children from that very plight.

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            • Formavitae
              Jun 10, 2015 @ 04:04:32

              Yes. Evia’s Intentional Communities are a WONDERFUL idea. BW like us WILL be successful and thrive. It just won’t be with the support of the black “community”.

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  11. Neecy
    Jun 10, 2015 @ 01:45:39

    One thing I do see coming with this whole issue of police brutality and Blacks is eventually the police will stop reinforcing the law with blacks in predominatley Black areas. So Blacks do need to be prepared for this.Its already happening in Baltimore. Its sad because we all know what that means for Blakistan and the BW still living there.

    And while many conservative Whites are celebrating this possible future (police no longer policing Blacks out of fear of being sued and called racists) what they fail to see if their asses are NEXT! Who do they think these unhinged cops are going to start picking on next when they can’t get away with picking on Blacks? YEP – THOSE who look like them and cannot use “racism” as an excuse.

    Mark my words, that is what’s going to start happening is, once they lay off of policing Blacks, they will start terrorizing and brutalizing Whites. That is when we will see police reforms.

    So on both ends, its going to get worse before it gets better.

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    • kenna
      Jun 10, 2015 @ 06:20:17

      My husband hates the cops. He hates it so much he would rather join the military and deploy, than join a police force. Why? Because of his family’s experience dealing with them. when someone can’t discriminate against you based on race they’ll do it by class. The first group of whites they’re going to target is poor whites, trailer park trash. White middle class and upper won’t really care because they see these groups of whites almost the same way they see black people. For e.g. My husband would tell me of times when he was younger how the cops would pull them over and ticket them twice even though they already know that they just received a ticket from a previous cop down the street. he wasn’t like the typical white people who were living in those mobile homes, but was there because his dad got so sick they had to sell all the property they had to pay for his medical expenses. Once they start moving from poor white to middle and upper that’s when white folks will truly start caring.

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      • Neecy
        Jun 10, 2015 @ 14:05:08

        Wow Kenna you know I am seeing a good portion of Whites who denounce the police these days. It seems some are clearly aware that the behaviors of these officers reek power trip on the more powerless groups and see eventually it can and will be them if they are not of a upper class with more clout.

        It would behoove more Whites to stand against police brutality because like all things eventually it will seep into their backyards like all the other things in society they thought they were immune to but weren’t.

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    • neurochick
      Jun 11, 2015 @ 06:49:49

      Neecy:

      That’s already happening. Many police officers believe it’s “us against them” and “them” has no color. Look what happened in 2004 when NYC hosted the Republican National Convention. There were peaceful protests, mostly by white people and many of them were arrested unjustly. That was eleven years ago, so you’re right, it will happen.

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      • Neecy
        Jun 11, 2015 @ 21:32:37

        Right – it’s just scary what this society has become in the last decade.

        I soo miss the 80’s and some of the 90’s. Not sure what happened since then but seems we are moving backwards as a society.

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  12. KP
    Jun 10, 2015 @ 05:10:07

    They already are terrorizing whites. Look at Utah. Cops are killing more people than drugs and domestic violence. We don’t hear about it as often in the media b/c it doesn’t get the views and clicks like racially charged incidents do.

    Also, I’m don’t know if White people will care as much as. For the most part, I actually think they’re particularly blind to it. There was a video of a 20-something white girl who was beaten up by the cops and guess what, she said she still respects them and the badge. Their idea of to protect and to serve is just as warped as those who are supposed to do the protecting and the serving.

    I agree with Formavitae that these new school AA parents are not teaching their kids how to interact with cops. I have 4 generations of family members who worked in law enforcement, and while I don’t have the innate fear of cops that many AAs have, I would never interact with a cop the way many of my AA peers would.

    I live in a neighborhood that is predominantly solid middle-class AA. We have a community pool like the one in McKinney, and when you want to host a party at our pool, you actually have to “rent” the pool and block off time for your event. Other community members will be notified that they can’t use the pool during your reserved time slot, and you can enjoy the pool with your group of people without interruptions from random neighbors. This is how most of these communities work. I’m willing to bet the community pool in McKinney is the same.

    I’m not excusing anything that happened there, but I keep thinking about Khadija’s post about the microaggressions/behaviors of underclass or recently removed from underclass AAs exhibit that they have no idea are subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) but undesirable behaviors.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 10, 2015 @ 15:04:31

      Really KP? Interesting I didn’t know it was happening like that in Utah. You’re right we don’t hear about it because it’s not as semsationalizing as when it’s race.

      It’s becoming scared times for those in lower class of society. Eventually America will be just that – class based society and if you are on the wrong end of that class – God help you.

      I just read that courts are upholding a decision to reject potential police candidates with higher IQs based on the fact that they may not stick around as long due to less job satisfaction as a candidate with lower IQ. can you believe this! Lol we are in a world of trouble when police officers are favored for employment based on having lower IQ scores.

      http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-police-departments-refuse-hire-smart/

      Also,I just read in many places they are cutting welfare off after A year if the recipient isn’t working. In Kansasa welfare recipients can only withdraw $25 a day from the ATM. Also no more spending on frivolous things as they are homing in on making sure the money is only being spent on food. There is a lot more that’s coming – people are getting tired of carrying the load of those who are able to,work,adults mooching off the system.

      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/05/17/266888/kansas-could-lose-millions-for.html

      Blacks – black women more importantly, better get it together soon cause this society is headed for some very tough terrain and those who ain’t got it are going to get it.

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      • neurochick
        Jun 11, 2015 @ 06:55:59

        The issue with many states is taxes. If you live in a state where people pay lower state taxes, there will be fewer social services. The issue is that people just never know when they’ll need help. I mean it is important to be responsible, but an accident, or illness can bankrupt anybody.

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        • Neecy
          Jun 11, 2015 @ 21:38:50

          Oh I understand that, I’m more so talking about the people who have ABUSED they system and had no intentions on ever trying to get on their feet.

          IMO welfare should be there to assist people, to pick up the pieces, not a permanent way of living. I believe welfare should be given free to the elderly and disabled and for those who have a medical issue. But everyone else who needs it should have to work for the benefits. The welfare system should have jobs or training in place for those on it to encourage them to not get comfort ale staying on it. And there needs to be a limit of kids one can get on welfare.

          I just think people are getting tired of subsidizing those who have no plans to do anything but use the state for their living. And because it’s the state that means people who actually work and who may neve need welfare assistance are still paying I to it for those who do.

          Black women need to minimize their risk as much as possible because things are getting tight and this society is becoming less and less tolerant of fitting the bill for people who can work and contribute to society lie, everyone else, but choose instead to keep being irresponsible.

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  13. SilverRoxen
    Jun 11, 2015 @ 13:44:01

    Great post, its sad that BW are jumping on the bandwagon for those who are more privileged than us in some way, especially knowning that we are not going to benefit from it. Wow, these recent events seem to be leaning towards what Bougie Black Girl said about Black people becoming a permanent underclass and what Khadija said years ago abput “peace walls” going up. It seems like more BW are starting to see the truth online, but offline I’m not too sure about that. It’s great to see you back Neecy.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 11, 2015 @ 21:43:59

      YEP. About those peace walls – KHADIJAH WAS ON THEEE $$$$$!

      Look at what is now happening in Baltimore. The police have stopped policing out of fear and those criminal BM are running rampant and killing and shooting everyone – including but not limited to BW and children. There were 37 deaths in Baltimore alone due to violence. I read an article where one woman stated that people fear going outside, that the men are openly walking around smoking weed and waving guns at people in the neighborhoods be a use they know the police aren’t there anymore. She said the police used to sit at all the corners and now there arent any. She has resorted to using METAL SHEET to cover hear windows to avoid stray bulletts entering her house.

      This will be happening across all inner cities now. And with this police brutality mess more police will not be policing the inner cities where most crime is done out of fear for their lives or fear of getting in trouble for arresting black men.

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  14. SilverRoxen
    Jun 12, 2015 @ 06:17:28

    That’s horrible! Of course Khadija also said the only people who were standing between BW and black children and the BM criminals were the police. http://sojournerspassport.com/you-betta-recognize-part-2-white-male-dominated-law-enforcement-is-the-only-thing-standing-between-you-and-mass-rape-in-black-neighborhoods/

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  15. APA
    Jun 12, 2015 @ 07:56:15

    One lesson that I’ve learned from all of this is to be very careful what you post on social media. Some ordinary people have already lost their jobs because they’ve been posting racist rants and tweets about these events. Not that I feel sorry for them because you do reap what you sow. However, you can tell from the comments on some of these stories that people have still not yet realized that you can easily lose your job over nonsense that you post online and how easy it would be for someone to ruin your career or reputation over a tweets or Facebook posts no matter how nice or honorable you were prior to being exposed. Quite frankly, I don’t want to give anyone ammunition to use against me. Iggy Azalea would still have a career if she had just kept her mouth shut about other people.

    On another note, I am glad that we are finally sending a clear message to bigots and racists that you can’t openly voice hateful opinions and think that there will not be any consequences. I think some of them got bold because a lot of the cops in these cases have not been prosecuted or found guilty. They didn’t realize that they are just lowly peons like the rest of us, and their privilege to abuse their fellow citizens is not protected especially when it creates a PR issue for their workplace. Honestly, I feel this is how minorities should deal with racist trolls online. Simply screenshot their comments and let their companies or organizations know that you will not patronize a company who hires and pays bigoted individuals. I know that the McKinney woman being placed on suspension and the TX teacher and FL principal being fired was a big wake up call to folks who have been unashamedly posting hateful messages about African-Americans. I feel like repercussions like these are more effective message than protests because you are hitting people where it hurts most their pocketbooks.

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    • FoxyCleopatra
      Jun 13, 2015 @ 15:12:36

      “Iggy Azalea would still have a career if she had just kept her mouth shut about other people.”

      Do you mean Azalea Banks and not Iggy Azaelia?

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