NO JESSE NO!!!!

By now you have all seen or heard about Jesse Williams powerful speech on the BET awards last evening.

Let me first start off by saying – Jesse Williams is BAE and I have to give hum MUCH KUDOS for the shout out to Black womanhood that he gave. Black women needed that and I love him for that. And I am sending prayers, love and good universe vibes out to him because he is gonna need it after this.

 

BUTTER-AMA-RUH, the rest of the speech I am NOT here for what he did. And it’s because I like him very much. Why should he as a bi racial man who has been underrepresented and not appreciated in the black community fight for blacks and risk his livelihood!? What have blacks done to light and bi racial men like Jesse but erase them and effeminate them and deem them not manly enough as dark skinned BM?

 

I am probably the only living and breathing person of Black descent that wishes Jesse would not have given this speech. In fact I wish it was one of those coon tired asses Black men giving this speech because at least when the take down happens I wouldn’t feel a least bit of sadness or hurt for him.

 

BUT NOT JESSE! It’s NOT because I think the speech was not indeed needed, extremely powerful nor warranted or untrue, but because I actually LIKE JESSE WILLIAMS…no I LOVE JESSE WILLIAMS and I do not want to see him taken down as a result for speaking out or for Black people who just do not GET IT and who WILL NOT and CAN NOT do much to support him if and when the backlist meets him.

Another reason why I’m not happy it was Jesse. Black community has pushed aside and cast the ligh bi racial man as effeminate and simeone that BW should avoid and feel ashamed about in terms of relationships.

Just like the image of dark skinned black women have been erased so has the bi racial light skinned BM.

Why should a bi racial man with his PRIVLEDGE risk his livelihood for a group of people that gave ultimately ERASED HIM and seemed him invaluable as a MAN.

Let dark skinned “Chocojate bruddahs” that black peoples and black men worship and live so much take the fkn fall!!!

In some ways yes I am saying Jesse is caping and “mammying” for a group of people that has never loved or respected “his Type”.

And yes that includes BLACK WOMEN.

Black women manmies (the majority in the black community) have basically told the likes of Jesse Williams and his ilk that they are not good enough as men and gave ignored them and treated them with disdain and ALLOWED color struck BLACK MEN who worship light and bi racial women to make them feel terrible for doing the same.

No Jesse should have let the men who resemble the ones that black people and women ADORE do that and put their damn livelihood on the line.

I think of Jesse Williams as I think of Progressive BW LIKE US and who I would tell to stop fighting for Black causes and issues and things in which we will not receive any real comeuppance for and that are mainly FUTILE when a lot of the issues affecting Black people are mired in our own actions, choices and dysfunctions.

 

How long do Black people think we can keep pulling the wool over White people’s eyes and guilting them when our backyards look, sound, feel and are like war torn SYRIA???

 

They see it yall! They may not say it but the minute we start talking about police brutality and the murdering done by White cops, racism, they are looking right back at us with the side eye because they see the same things we accuse them of being perpetuated BY US towards ourselves MORE OFTEN than not.

 

Yes they even see the RACISM we perpetuate towards the women in the Black race that favors anything closest to the “OPPRESSER”. How the fuck can they take a group of people seriously that do not even like their birth mothers to resemble the authentic picture of the race but rather worship women who look like “their old mean racist asses”? They see we do not even like our Black assed selves!

 

They see we kill each other at very high numbers compared to other races who kill each other or Black people. They see Black women being slaughtered on public trains by Black men, being beaten like wild animals in the street by Black men, being killed and murdered by Black men fighting turf and ego battles, they see young Black men slaughtering each other over DUMB SHIT ever hour on the hour.

 

They see we do not take pride in our communities or keeping our communities clean safe havens for our children to thrive amongst each other and be able to build stronger, prouder and more accomplished Black youth and adults. They see our communities are like war zones. They see we murder the women of our race and culture at higher rates than anyone else. They see that the men don’t marry and raise their kids and leave the bill at the foot of Black women who CANNOT raise sane healthy men and children alone.

 

THEY SEE IT ALL! Everyone sees it no matter how much we keep trying to pointing the finger at them. And as long as they see we are FULL OF SHIT (basically) they will never CHANGE. They will never RESPECT us, our lives, our humanity. WHY? BECAUSE WE DON’T!

 

And as long as we don’t know OTHERS WON’T.

 

Why is this such a hard concept for Black people to get?

 

I am not speaking about Jesse. Jesse’s heart is definitely in the right place, but he has to understand IT AINT WORTH IT! Because Black people are all talk and no damn action. Black people have not figured out the way to win in this world against oppression and such is to MOBILIZE, HAVE STRONG FAMILY FOUNDATIONS, STRONG COMMUNITIES for our children to thrive in. Instead we keep thinking speeches and pointing the finger is going to get us out of the hole we are in or rather make White people change and love us and respect us?

 

PSSSH!

 

The number one killer of Black men is NOT the PO PO. It is other Black men living within his vicinity. The number one killer of Black women is not Bubba, the KKK, The po po, or red neck Billy bob! IT IS BLACK MEN. I read somewhere that almost every 21 hours a Black woman is murdered with a gun. WTF do you think is killing us!? BLACK MEN in the BLACK COMMUNITY.

 

I am not saying there aint no real effin issues with racism in this country. There is and frankly it’s getting worse. But what I am saying is, I hate to see people like Jesse Williams take the load and FALL for ungrateful Negroes (many of which who are already denouncing his “Blackness” because they are jealous BW are drooling over his beautiful conscious ass).

 

 

This man will not deserve the backlash and take down that will be his inevitable. Does this mean I do not think that Black people should not speak out against atrocities committed by White establishment? NO. But I still have yet to see where speeches and speaking out has really REALLY gotten Black people anywhere.

 

We have to stop with the speeches! Black people like hearing heartfelt emotional speeches like this, but how many Black people actually do what it takes to turn things around other than give hive fives and words of encouragement to the speaker?

 

How many Black people are in a position to uphold and continue this man’s career if and or when the take down comes?

 

THAT is the real problem. That we do not have enough POWER STRUCTURES within our own community to support and uphold the careers and livelihoods of people like Jesse Williams who are brave enough to speak out.

 

 

 

In another time and space his speech would mean something. But I am sorry. In a time where most atrocities committed against Black people are at the hands of OTHER BLACK PEOPLE I am having a HARD time standing behind anyone who continues to point the finger at the White establishment for their atrocities.

 

You see there are TWO atrocities happening against Blacks. ONE yes can and is some aspects of the White establishment but the other MOST IMPORTANT one is BLACK ON BLACK ATROCITIES.

 

As long as we continue to IGNORE this, things will get worse and we will be falling down the rabbit hole further and eventually all anyone will hear is the echoes as we are completely diminished because we refused to address the real cause of strive and pain – other Black people.

 

Another thing.

Black American people are some of the most BLESSED Black people walking earth. Because we live in a country that *AT LEAST* still gives us autonomy to chart our own success and lives IF WE SO CHOOSE. If anyone disagrees than point out to me any other place where Blacks have the same amount or higher of rich wealthy Blacks living amongst them. Point out to me a place where even the most GHETTO THUGS of Black people can still become millionaires and successful. Point out to me any other place where Blacks can have the same rags to riches stories that we do in this country??

 

Yall better recognize we don’t miss the water till the well runs dry. If Black people keep up this one sided fighting and victim playing eventually, they aint going to want to share even a CRUMB of pie with us. Yes I am saying we should be grateful and SMARTER. Instead of always running our mouths, we should have been building, uplifting, growing, and mobilizing economically to be a force to reckon with for the White establishment. Instead of using the system that we bitch about to our advantage while we have had that advantage, we keep telling the world that no matter what we get we are always going to be “VICTIMS”.

 

I really hope I am wrong about Jesse and that I pray instead of him taking a backlash and fall that his career and life will further enhance. But if I know the history, that most likely will not happen as most Black H-Wood actors and actresses who are brave enough to speak out against stuff like this usually get blacklisted/blackballed.

 

If am going to put my neck on the line for anyone, it will be for people who I already KNOW are on the same page and who GET IT. NOT for victims and people who cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. Black people CAN address White racism and such and still also address the need to clean up our own backyards. But it seems we can’t do that.

 

As a Progressive BW, I see that we can talk about racism and atrocities against us, but WE still also can look at others like us and point out the flaws that are holding us back *cough* MAMMIES *cough* SISTER SOLDIERS *cough*.

 

Anyway, I know my opinion will not be received well because Jesse’s speech was powerful indeed. But I gotta say WRONG TIMING BABE!

 

What say you Nesters. Come on Lemme have it! LOL

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  1. Neecy
    Jun 27, 2016 @ 18:45:39

    I really wanna talk about this point I mentioned

    “Another reason why I’m not happy it was Jesse. Black community has pushed aside and cast the ligh bi racial man as effeminate and simeone that BW should avoid and feel ashamed about in terms of relationships.

    Just like the image of dark skinned black women have been erased so has the bi racial light skinned BM.

    Why should a bi racial man with his PRIVLEDGE risk his livelihood for a group of people that gave ultimately ERASED HIM and seemed him invaluable as a MAN.

    Let dark skinned “Chocojate bruddahs” that black peoples and black men worship and live so much take the fkn fall!!!

    In some ways yes I am saying Jesse is caping and “mammying” for a group of people that has never loved or respected “his Type”.

    And yes that includes BLACK WOMEN.

    Black women manmies (the majority in the black community) have basically told the likes of Jesse Williams and his ilk that they are not good enough as men and gave ignored them and treated them with disdain and ALLOWED color struck BLACK MEN who worship light and bi racial women to make them feel terrible for doing the same.

    No Jesse should have let the men who resemble the ones that black people and women ADORE do that and put their damn livelihood on the line.”

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  2. Neecy
    Jun 27, 2016 @ 18:54:11

    People love it when you put yourself in the line even when they haven’t reciprocated or done shit to deserve you speaking out for them!

    Black women should be ashamed of themselves for treating light and bi racial men the wAy they have! What a lot of BW failed to realize that instead of cutting of their noses to spite their faces it was ALWAYS the light and bi racial man who were willing to love them as dark skinned women!

    So no. Jesse should understand that black folks will suck you dry, high five you when emotions are high but when the chips fall and shit hits the fan THEY AINT GONNA SUPPORT YOU! They already talking about how your “light skin and green eyes” makes you less qualified! Lol

    See ungrateful! And I will get my right thumb the same BW hooping and hollering about your speech will go back to worshiping they “chocolate kangs” when all the hype has died down.

    And because these MAMMIES are so desperately gluttons for punishment they will fall in line and allow sorry black men guilt them into not supporting you because in their eyes the only people who can drool over light skin and green eyed mixed/light persons without “consequence” is DA BLACK MAN!

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    • KekeG
      Jun 27, 2016 @ 20:41:38

      I heard his speech, personally thought it was nice but honestly I don’t care. Black men are going give him pats on back for him highlighting injustices that are affecting them, while chastise him for even mentioning black women. Then it will be business as usual.
      However what I find funny is how black men are now all up their feeling about the light skin blue eyed black man. Theyve forced fed black women who look like me, mixed race black women and how we must accept them as one of sisters but forgot all about those mixed boys they’re and continue to produce, who’s gradually becoming the face of them. Karma is bitch and I’m loving it.

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      • Neecy
        Jun 28, 2016 @ 09:54:40

        YEP! I have always loved the lighter brothers and always recognized they were the one group of BM who loved darker skinned BW without the insecurities.

        It was in the last couple decades that light and bi racial men finally started moving on after seeing how so many BW treated and saw them.

        Being 42 there was a very short period in the 80’s where light skinned and bi racial men were on BW’s radars. Then once black male dominated hip hop started and started calling BW colorstruck and the likes ore BW started trying to assuage the egos of darker skinned BM. There was always the running joke by light skinned men after that that “light skinned men are no longer in style”.

        It has always been mind boggling to me how BW allowed BM for so long to guilt them away from liking the very things black men BLATANTLY and UNAPOLOGETICALLY prefer (light/mixed and non Black women) yet still maintained this “dark skinned BM is the king” nonsense.

        And you better believe these BM are shitting their pants now because the last thing they want is for BW to do to them what they have been doing to BW for decades with light and biracial and NON BLACK women.

        Like you said, karma is a biatch and what goes around comes right back around!

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  3. HBIC
    Jun 27, 2016 @ 18:59:33

    This. right. Here!!!!! Word!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾

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  4. KekeG
    Jun 27, 2016 @ 20:33:28

    Black men compartmentalize so well. They’ll teach their biracial sons to be down for cause, see his pain and plight in the world as a dark skin black man, while degrading, demeaning their very sons for every wanting to be face and image of black men. The things I’ve heard black men say about light skin/mixed race black men is beyond disgraceful. Even in Jamaica it’s the same. Black men hate it when light skin/mixed men like Sean Paul and shaggy being thrusted on international market as the face of reggae music but have no problem with women like tessane chin, tami chin, samantha j, the ladies of brick and lace, alaine etc being the face reggae and danchall music. The irony in this non of these women who they have tried to market to world as been able to transition over not one.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 28, 2016 @ 09:59:08

      YEP BM are working overtime to make sure that BW don’t start praising and supporting light/bi racial men. That is why you never see these men in their videos or even in roles and such as romantic interests. BM are scared to death that BW might develop the liking and preferences for the men who look like the women THEY WORSHIP.

      hence the “light skinned men are effeminate” comments.

      I CANNOT WAIT for the bi racial and light skinned BM to start coming back on BW’s radars. Shit will be funny to watch as BW hold all the receipts and proof that BM can’t even say SHIT.

      The problem is now the BM can’t guilt BW anymore because we have RECEIPTS from years and decades of their colorism and hypocrisy. HA! best position to be in ladies.

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  5. cediblog
    Jun 27, 2016 @ 21:16:14

    Though I did not watch BET award show, I heard about his speech on the internet. I think that his heart was in the right place, but for the wrong people in the wrong venue. Yes he was mammying , if he was to put the onus on anyone, he should put on us black people. Sad to say, Jesse will learn fast enough that many black people are not worthy of his support. This reminds me 20 years ago,I was going to meetings at a pseudo,black nationalist group and we were supposed to open up a coop type store, the leader of the group was a fanatical bi-racial guy who you could not tell anything to, his girlfriend at that time was a follower bullshit BW. I remembered telling the group in one meeting that I am a little leary of us opening a store as a new group,andfurther more I also told the group that as black people we tend to talk alot,but show little action( believe it or not honky bashing can even become tiring for me). Well the people in the group who were most angry at me were the BW, the BM not as much. I was told that the sistas thought I was negative and did not have any faith in our people. The goal for the next meeting was that all the members should find at least one small commercial rental space that could be used as a small store. So for 2 days I went around took a city bus and wrote down addresses of potential spaces, when we had our meeting the following week, not one of those militant blacks even attempted to find a place and the majority of them had their own vehicle. I brought this up to the leader and he just brushed it off (he himself never looked at any spaces). Yes but I am the negative one who does not have faith in her own people. When I confronted the leader several mlonths later and asked him why are we wasting time bashing the whites,rather than doing something that will benefit us, and that Iam finding this organization useless, he said to me that he is hookihng up with another brudda in the group and they are doing some kind of hip hop event in other words I got mine, you go get yours. (him and the other brudda never got their supposed event started) and the same nonsense was with the women of the group and I just decided to leave.

    Yes you are right Neecy,many blacks are all talk and no action. We love high fiving and rhetoric. This behaviour is not exclusive to American blacks,but to blacks all over the world. I personally believe many black people like you say are self hating, in addition I believe many ofour people are scared shitless about our existence, we tend to have no positive purpose in life ,and are lost mentally. You know how diseases thrive in toxic environments, many black people have become a disease who thrive in dysfunction.Jesse I don’t think is a dumb guy, he just made a mistake in using the wrong treatment for the wrong people in the wrong venue.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 28, 2016 @ 10:03:44

      @ CEDI

      Yep its always using BW to do the footwork and heavy lifting but when it boils down to it Bm have ALWAYS been self centered and only out for their needs whether individually or collectively as a gender.

      And yes while Jesse’s heart is in the right place, he is going to learn the hard way that Black folks are emotional and love this type of rhetoric but when it comes down to getting shit done, forget it.

      And if his career suffers the first things these ungrateful negroes are going to say is “why should I risk my livelihood I gotta eat”.

      That is why I say IMO it wasn’t worth it based on my knowledge and proven history of Blacks.

      I hope things work out for him though because I know his heart is in the right place.

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  6. cediblog
    Jun 28, 2016 @ 06:11:41

    I must be a really different dark skinned BW because I never looked at ght,or bi-racial men as any different than BM. Some hated dark skinned BW like BM do. Some liked dark skinned BW like some BM do. Many were called Niggers by whites ,like BM were. I personally never looked at them as effeminate .

    In my opinion at this time,Jesse seems to be like a lonely wolf and does have a lot to lose, I doubt if he is on the same economic level as Will Smith or even Denzel or even (bad example Cosby). If he does get on the present day McCarthy list,(the list not talked about any more, but still very active)maybe he will take some of that . He appears to be a young man in his 30’s who is idealistic about blacks, but he will also quickly become realistic about many blacks, he will quickly learn about self preservation and hopefully he will take some of that passionate Leo drive he has, and use it to his benefit and in the long run could become successful in a way none of us could ever imagine.

    Neecy this reminds me of a blog you had awhile
    ago about stop begging and do things for yourself, maybe jessee will begin to do the same.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 28, 2016 @ 10:07:05

      I agree. In some ways he may not have a lot to lose like a Will Smith or Denzel, but then in other ways it could halt his career. But now that I think about it, he doesn’t have that big of a career where he as much to lose so he might very well make out and come out unscathed.

      At the end of the day though, he is going to learn that trying to appeal to Black folks emotional side is not really going to get him further.

      But I am going to remain optimistic since I see a lot of Black women on social media coming out the woodworks and praising him. Maybe now more BW will start paying attention to light and bi racial men and stop groveling at the foot of dark skinned BM who have done nothing to uplift them.

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  7. Eji
    Jun 28, 2016 @ 10:21:22

    “ONE yes can and is some aspects of the White establishment but the other MOST IMPORTANT one is BLACK ON BLACK ATROCITIES.” I love this comment you made Neecy. It seems to be a difficult concept for people to grasp. Sure racism is still a problem, but a MUCH MORE IMPORTANT problem is the black on black atrocities. “The Struggle” against whites/racism is a more romantic storyline sure, but our socio-economic survival is more important and at this juncture we as a people are not set up to survive, not without the “racists” and/or “police” that we are all too happy to fight. if they do ever let us alone, black women will perish in record numbers.
    As for Jesse, I was surprised at the role that he seemed to have assigned himself. He seems passionately, truly, honestly to be about the fight and I do admire him for it, but inevitably it will affect his livelihood unless he is in a lifetime contract with Shonda. He is making himself too “militant” for the whites, he is already too “light” for the few black men with any kind power to want to advance him and black women, no matter how much they love him do not have the resources to do so. (Other than Shonda, maybe)

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    • Neecy
      Jun 28, 2016 @ 16:51:47

      EJI

      You hit it on the head. The backlash from Whites is pretty huge. And you are right, when it boils down to it, even Shonda can’t save him because she doesn’t run the network. She is the writer/creator but not the executives who when faced with the possibility of losing viewership will let him go or choose not to cast him.

      And another thing you are right about is Black men in general aren’t going to help him out, out of fear of being cast aside for more men who look like Jesse.

      I hope he can sit back and really look at the bigger picture. I would say if Blacks were more mobilized economically and culturally and had stronger family structures and communities and were faced with these grievances he spoke of, then I would say it would be worth it. But the reality is Blacks do not have their shit together as a collective and you cannot be out caping for people with a crabs in barrel and constant victim mentality.

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  8. Shaylah
    Jun 28, 2016 @ 14:26:26

    I did not hear the speech but black men need to take several seats. I hope that negros and I know they don’t need to realize that everything has a tipping point. He just held up a mirror that needgrows need to look into and they have been avoiding it far too long. Justin Timberlake need to stfu too. Why did need to watch the awards show? We are doing fine with out him thank you very much. Yet he was silent as a church mouse when they came gunning for Janet Jackson. I hope that what ever happens something good will come out of this.

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    • Neecy
      Jun 28, 2016 @ 16:53:29

      I am pulling for Jesse. But we will have to take a wait and see approach to see where he lands.

      As far as Justin Timberlake – cannot stand him — I have never got over that incident he pulled with Janet Jackson and have been pretty cool on him since.

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      • Shaylah
        Jun 30, 2016 @ 08:01:09

        I agree 1,000% with you. I want black women to get good press to even out the bs we go through. I am with JW and since he has a black wife, I hope that he will continue to be in our corner

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  9. cediblog
    Jun 28, 2016 @ 17:48:05

    Justin Timberlake like Justin Bieber like John Mayer, MIck Jagger, Michael Bolton, Pat Boone, Elvis Presley ( what do they all have in common besides skin colour) they are the type of people Jesse Williams is talking about.

    “He was quiet as a mouse when they came gunning for Janet”(To be honest I would expect nothing more from someone like him). Timberlake is using what I call White psychology, you know when they say we’re all from the human race. I am quite sure if his white privilege was in jeopardy, and he would have to compete with non-whites, the idea of all of us are from the human race would not be a thing that would ever come into his mind nor would he ever say. Timberlake like so many of his brethren are for Self-Preservation and there is nothing wrong with that. I believe in self preservation. White Psychology is a very powerful tool ,as they say manipulation of ones brain is most effective form of colonization. More powerful than force and guns. White Psychology encompasses a stealthy approach to. Being stealthy is something many progressive black people should learn.along with self-preservation

    Well the aftermath is if there is damage to Jesses career it is already done.

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    • KekeG
      Jun 28, 2016 @ 21:51:29

      For every Justin Timberlake, Justin beiber theres a black man on the other side facilitating their career. Hence the reason why I could care when I hear black men complain about white men like him profiting heavily of the industry they created. Black men are the world’s middle man, like BB said, “any motherfucker with a boat and a dream and roll up on the shores of Africa….” we may not be in Africa with mentality is so ever present amongst them. As for the whole janet Jackson thing. I remember a special on ET where they making fun of him because his girlfriend at the time(Cameron diaz) was,defending him from the paparazzi.

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      • Mimi
        Jul 07, 2016 @ 18:49:08

        Can you believe I actually said a similar comment on Beyond Black White and got thoroughly dragged because it was not pointedly one-sided. I don’t mean to bring up another blog up in here (and I do admire and respect, greatly, Chrystalen) but I do like the even-handedness here that is sometimes not found in other BWEs.

        I liked Jessie Williams’ speech because it appeals to the ideals of humanity, fairness and justice. Black on Black is intolerable, but I do not pay taxes for the police to act as judge/jury/executioner according to race. Why the false dichotomy in the discussion? Black on Black crime neither condones nor causes police brutality. Police brutality neither excuses nor minimizes black on black crime.

        His words were powerful and transcended the black/white equator. He called on us, as a country, to move forward and start to fix our society.

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        • Neecy
          Jul 08, 2016 @ 10:25:56

          I feel differently. I feel and believe in the idea that if you do not value your own life, others won’t either. The fact that Bm kill each other at such high rates signals a lack of value they place on their lives. The lack of value placed on BW by our own communities seeps into greater society where others also will not see our value.

          So its not a false dichotomy at all IMO.

          I was always raised with the idea that if you want people to respect you, you best respect yourself!

          Humans are not perfect beings. in a perfect world everyone would make the right decision and not connect certain dots to others. But its human to err and its human nature to not value things or people who do not show that value to themselves.

          And so, I believe its very easy for these cops to kill and abuse BM and BW because we do it so often to ourselves showing very little value for our own lives.

          As far as Jesse’s speech. I didn’t say I didn’t agree with it. I just think its one sided and no one ever addresses the REAL THREAT affecting Bm and BW in terms of violence – and that real threat is EACH OTHER not cops.

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          • Mimi
            Jul 08, 2016 @ 20:48:53

            Hi Neecy!

            Thanks for reading my comment.
            As for respectability, I think historically (Rosewood, FL and Tulsa, OK (Black Wall St.)) respect did not matter as far as racism. The virulent racism entrenched in many police forces is rooted in runaway slave catchers, overseers, whipping boys and posses to put down slave rebellions. If I was an educated black woman pre-segregation, with hat and gloves to match, I would still have to change trains in Washington, DC and ride in the back of the bus.

            The black community is so self-loathing today because of drugs and OOW births resulting in single-parent, female head of households.

            This does not, I emphasize, excuse, minimize or diminish the real threat to black women and children. Palestinians treat their women like cattle — but that does not justify the occupation of their land by illegal Israeli settlements.

            Jesse Williams’ speech has impacted the BC already. The Game and Snoop Dogg organized a march and told women and children to stay home. BM realized that JW was the outcome of what many black men aspire to: interracial marriage. And this half-white dignified man laid some blue-eyed soul on the black community. “Da bruddahs” didn’t like that. Jesse Williams challenged everyone to be a participant in contributing the best to society to fix it and to recognize problems. Then he went and gave props to sistahs….. Jesse Williams dropped a meteorite on the black community.

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            • Mimi
              Jul 09, 2016 @ 08:10:51

              *This does not I emphasize, excuse, minimize or diminish the real threat to black women and children. * meaning the real threat of rape, abuse, muggings, assault, etc. by black men. I believe that there is a way for BW to navigate the internal (BM) and external racism (society as a whole) which is a threat to them and their children.

              Wrong is Wrong on either side of the divide. Remaining neutral is a strategy, but I believe should not be a judgment or determination on the situation. I think we are saying the same thing.

              Enjoy Toronto. I seriously considered moving there when I visited some 20 years ago.

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  10. cediblog
    Jun 29, 2016 @ 00:46:51

    I agree with you Keke Jesse may not be a middle man, but it was BM who helped to facilitate JT,JB and others of their ilk career. The same could be said possibly about Paula Deens career,her becoming a millionaire a few times over again,it was a lot of BW who helped facilitate her career, so there is also the middle woman . So really we can’t complain. When I was a kid I remember someone telling me that the transatlantic slave trade would not have been very successfull,if BM did not join forces with the whites to capture blacks. So maybe this present situation that affects the black diaspora is our KARMA,

    Neecy there was an article regarding the Jesse Williams situation brought up the painful issue regarding colorism amongst certain blacks. There is even female sociologist who has a twitter feed, in which she talks about darker skinned children, being treated more harshly than lighter skinned children in public schools and with lighter skinned blacks getting more privilege than darker skinned blacks. You know I would not disregard everything she says fully,but I personally know too many light skinned blacks who have nothing in this world. I did not go to her tweet regarding Jesses perceived light skin privilege,because how does that help me in the world. Also professionals like sociologists,psychologist etc. have no empowering solutions and also I’m sick and tired of these studies, and people black, white and other in various professions making money off of black misery and dysfunction.
    I remember an incident Vanessa Williams had years ago , when she was at the white house, light skinned, blue-green eyes dressed up to the nines and some white asked her to share out some food for him. ENOUGH about colorism BS, race, media etc. Progressive BW who are into self preservation, may want to limit their interest in the entertainment field,hollywierd, social media. (INTERNET) etc.Remember guys like Jesse have a few million $$$$$, WE DON’T . Everything will work out fine for him.

    Neecy have you decided to take the plunge to travel yet. (Remember travelling does not always have to be internationally, or a different city. I’m quite sure that there are small towns and areas in your city you may not have been to.I personally have done more international travel than local travel,which is why I will be travelling this summer for a few days to a local place I have never been to. The beauty about local travel is that it doe not cost as much,and you can go for a day or few. TAKE THE PLUNGE and LET’S IMPROVE OUR KARMA

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  11. cediblog
    Jun 29, 2016 @ 02:42:19

    One more thing,I know that I write long replies, but hey things could be worse in life.
    I forgot to mention that BET is white owned, like Essence magazine, likeVibemagazine,like Carols Daughter,l many things we start and then sold(or maybe in the long run,we gave it away). One of the original ex-founders of BET Sheila Johsnson was alledged to have said that she has been disappointed with the programming on BET for a number of years and rarely watches the channel anymore.

    The moral of the story is not to expect anything uplifting,empowering, practical solutions or anything that will help you in your life from mainstream media. I remember a blog few years back and one of the solutions for happiness for BW was if you had a tv,get rid of it by giving it to a white friend.(because there will be nothing really empowering for BW on it anyways)

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  12. Neil Marsden
    Jun 29, 2016 @ 16:50:12

    Beautifully written Neecy as well as spot on.

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  13. I don't care
    Jun 29, 2016 @ 22:31:11

    For some reason I’m not surprised, Jesse has made pro black comments before. Bet was his biggest platform as of yet. Knowing that he is a critical thinker, I know he thought about the ramifications of that speech. He’s producing a movie, I think he will be ok especially if sistahs come out full force to support him like I’m seeing and hearing. They might not admit to it but they are fully aware of black women spending power.
    Too be honest I’m rather tired hearing talking about blk men. They are such a collective disappointment. As a dark skin blk woman from southern California the light/mixed blk men loved me. Lol I remember the first one I too suffered from low self worth in my younger days. Then I meet a “Jessie” just thicker green eyes too. Some, people were shock how could I get someone like that? Lol but I never chased him. I always bonded well with light/mixed blk men. Blk men are being really corny hating on this dude. So girlish.

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  14. shalay
    Jul 01, 2016 @ 12:57:56

    Thank you so much for your post!!

    I grew up around light skinned and bi-racial black boys/guys and it seemed like they used to pick and make fun of brown skinned/dark skinned black women just as much as brown skinned/dark skinned black men, it seemed like they are in cahoots when it comes to downing us.

    I hardly saw light skinned/bi-racial black men with brown/dark skinned black women not unless she was the conventional beautiful black woman (even then I still hardly saw them with one.) I only saw them with women/girls about the same complexion or white. I used to like guys who looked like Jesse when I was in school (I haven’t liked a guy in awhile) but I always felt inferior to them, and I wouldn’t get a second glance from them or no glance at all. It seemed like when they did see me it was kind of like they almost regretted looking my way. I always saw light skinned/bi-racial women/girls with the darkest of black men and was hoping that it would go the same for us, but it didn’t.

    I’m sorry I know this post was about Jesse’s speech but I was reading some of the comments about bi-racial/light skinned black men and made me think of this.

    p.s I know everyone has a right to like whoever they want and choose who they want to be with but I was stating something that I went through 🙂

    Thank you so much again for this posts and many other posts that you have made for us to read and understand.

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  15. cediblog
    Jul 02, 2016 @ 04:17:25

    SilverRoxen, I heard that quote about a couple of years ago from a different blog. Actually I came across Not your girl Friday a couple of days ago. Some of these blogs it seems may borrow information from each other, because it seems that they regurgitate the same thing. Yes I agree it is wise to stay out of conversations regarding black womens portrayal in the media, because it is not benefitting any of us in a positive way, anyway. Iam doing a lot of self fulfilling activities, instead of watching TV, I am reading up on the best ways to take care of ones finances ,I walk 2miles daily, recently I came across a tutorial on making natural body care products.There is so much to learn in the world, which is why I no longer have a tv.
    SilverRoxen if you or any other lady would like to share activities you do, that you feel others can benefit from, I’m all ears, because I am always open to self improvement activities.

    Shayla I can relate to you as a dark skinned black woman, I was also taunted by
    BM, WM.and Biracials. In addition I also dated all of them. For me personally I do not waste time on men( and I am not Lesbian either). I have began to use my time to better myself, and you know what I feel better about myself, and I also I have also began to look better. Shayla take care of yourself and put yourself first.

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    • SilverRoxen
      Jul 02, 2016 @ 09:26:26

      I realized that after rereading that article I linked to that you are referring to something else.

      Yes blogs do borrow information from each other and some of this common knowledge/sense.

      I watch tv here and there, but the shows I watch tend to be reruns of sitcoms or teen shows or animated shows. I tend to get my entertainment from YouTube or I watch specific shows on certain websites.

      That’s great cediblog! I want to learn more practical skills such as gardening, finance, fitness, nutrition, etc. I am also trying to reestablish reading as a hobby. I spend way too much time on the Internet reading BWE/BWIR pages when its really time for me to move on in regards to certain topics.

      By the way, Neecy I didn’t mean to derail the topic. 🙂

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    • Shaylah
      Jul 06, 2016 @ 15:29:26

      Thanks Cediblog for those words of encouragement. I just prefer to make Shaylah happy and know that there are other things in life beside men. Thank you again for those words of encouragement.

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  16. cediblog
    Jul 02, 2016 @ 04:20:38

    By the way Ladies approach the internet with caution .because in many ways it can be worse than TV

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  17. Dorian
    Jul 04, 2016 @ 20:28:33

    Jesse Williams should have kept it simple by avoiding the BET awards. Now the losers are gunning for him.

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  18. cediblog
    Jul 06, 2016 @ 18:23:04

    shayla you”re welcome. Take care

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